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Which lenses are you missing?

Jonathan-Mac said:
The plastic 40mm f/8 "pancake" manual focus $200 toy lens that was announced with the S9.
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They can make as many toy lenses as they want, and I'll happily buy them at that price. Seeing as you can't even get the focal length correct, I doubt your bias and prejudice would allow you to use one anyway. I have no such issues. I'm on the Lumix Facebook group, and there's a few users there that know how to use it as well.240915Es-P1013687.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5
  • LUMIX S 26/F8
  • 26.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/30 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • -0.7
  • ISO 100
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  • Panasonic - DC-S5
  • 26.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/125 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100
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  • Panasonic - DC-S5
  • 26.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/125 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • -0.7
  • ISO 100
 
I think it comes down to become familiar with a lens and a camera. Once you know that combination by heart, no lens/camera combination is a real problem. Sometimes it takes longer, sometimes faster.
 
I can't fault the optics on the 26mm/f8 lens and I love the size and weight, especially on the S9. Those photos show how good the lens is.

But I will admit to some laziness... on the S9 where I am focusing with the LCD panel, the AF of the Sigma 24mm f/3.5 is nice to have. My old eyes struggle with MF. Z04 975
 
Couple more. Nothing wrong with the image quality. The Bokeh is even pretty nice, on the odd occasion you actually get some lol. Colour is lovely, just as good as any other L mount lens I own. You can get a loss of contrast at times, if the light hits the front element at just the right angle. It happens, but very very rarely in my experience. But other than that, its pretty darn good.

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  • Panasonic - DC-S5
  • 26.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/100 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • -0.7
  • ISO 100



I find it as sharp as I ever want, or think I need. Edge to edge, corner to corner, within the field of focus. I think it's superb personally.

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  • Panasonic - DC-S5
  • 26.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/100 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • 0.3
  • ISO 100


Any softness will be due to movement of the foliage, as it was a reasonably windy day.

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  • Panasonic - DC-S5
  • 26.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/30 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • -0.7
  • ISO 160



I was getting a bit excited that Panny had a 40mm version in the pipeline, that I'd missed hearing about. No matter, I'll just keep using my adapted Canon EF pancake.
 
Pete_W said:
My old eyes struggle with MF.
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Mine too, Pete. I think that with the S9 and Lumix Lab app you can use the smartphone as a monitor with a bigger screen than the LCD of the camera. Simply by putting an universal smarphone holder in the cold shoe of the S9 and connecting the camera and the smartphone via Bluetooth, I guess.

I tried that with the S5ii and the Lumix Sync app, but the connection was not optimal all the time. I did not try to connect both with an usb-c cable, like the Sony users do with the Xperia smartphone. Maybe it works.

There is a very good app for Sony cameras to use the Phone as a monitor, besides the official Sony one. It is called "Monitor +", but unfortunely is not compatible with Lumix... :rolleyes:
 
xaviergut said:
Mine too, Pete. I think that with the S9 and Lumix Lab app you can use the smartphone as a monitor with a bigger screen than the LCD of the camera. Simply by putting an universal smarphone holder in the cold shoe of the S9 and connecting the camera and the smartphone via Bluetooth, I guess.

I tried that with the S5ii and the Lumix Sync app, but the connection was not optimal all the time. I did not try to connect both with an usb-c cable, like the Sony users do with the Xperia smartphone. Maybe it works.

There is a very good app for Sony cameras to use the Phone as a monitor, besides the official Sony one. It is called "Monitor +", but unfortunely is not compatible with Lumix... :rolleyes:
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Thanks Xavier! I hadn't thought about using the iPhone on a cold shoe mount. I will take a look on Google to see what mounts will suit my iPhone 15 Plus. Daumenhoch Smilie

I might take a look
 
xaviergut said:
Mine too, Pete. I think that with the S9 and Lumix Lab app you can use the smartphone as a monitor with a bigger screen than the LCD of the camera. Simply by putting an universal smarphone holder in the cold shoe of the S9 and connecting the camera and the smartphone via Bluetooth, I guess.
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I would find that horribly clunky for photography and the refresh rate not quick enough, it's not as critical for video as it's continuous.

Why not use the MF aids but then I suppose if your eyesight is bad that too could be difficult.

I used to get slated on Pentax forums for saying better AF on MILC is a necessity if you're either much older (most of them) or have bad eyesight but they insisted their DSLR gear was a "better photographic tool" and even I had difficulty getting a decent hit rate of keepers. I'd just stick to the AF unless you can't see where it's focussing via the LCD either.

Seems like a big EVF camera with diopter adjustment is the best bet, I'm glad Pete brought this up as it's a big factor if trying to use an S9 or other EVF-less camera and your eyesight is not great.
 
Oíche said:
I would find that horribly clunky for photography and the refresh rate not quick enough, it's not as critical for video as it's continuous.

Why not use the MF aids but then I suppose if your eyesight is bad that too could be difficult.

I used to get slated on Pentax forums for saying better AF on MILC is a necessity if you're either much older (most of them) or have bad eyesight but they insisted their DSLR gear was a "better photographic tool" and even I had difficulty getting a decent hit rate of keepers. I'd just stick to the AF unless you can't see where it's focussing via the LCD either.

Seems like a big EVF camera with diopter adjustment is the best bet, I'm glad Pete brought this up as it's a big factor if trying to use an S9 or other EVF-less camera and your eyesight is not great.
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I need to wear glasses for reading and computer work but my longer vision is still good. So with the S9 I have to put on my glasses to see the LCD which is fine, but sometimes with MF it can be difficult to see the MF assist lines depending on how many 'edges' there are in the image being taken. As I mentioned, laziness kicks in and AF is very easy to use and to trust.
 
Pete_W said:
I need to wear glasses for reading and computer work but my longer vision is still good. So with the S9 I have to put on my glasses to see the LCD which is fine, but sometimes with MF it can be difficult to see the MF assist lines depending on how many 'edges' there are in the image being taken. As I mentioned, laziness kicks in and AF is very easy to use and to trust.
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Indeed, especially eye detect AF was an amazing invention. For me S5ii has detected cormorant, blackbird and even black sheep eyes. If I critically review my old DSLR photos with it's legendary non detect 11 AF point system it makes one realise what superior tech this is.

I find the joystick and AF selection zones and points to be amazing for choosing specific points, I never had this on DSLR either and it has become a must have.
 
Markuswelder said:
They can make as many toy lenses as they want, and I'll happily buy them at that price. Seeing as you can't even get the focal length correct, I doubt your bias and prejudice would allow you to use one anyway. I have no such issues. I'm on the Lumix Facebook group, and there's a few users there that know how to use it as well.View attachment 7785View attachment 7786View attachment 7787
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No bias or prejudice here, I'm afraid. I'm not sure how you got that from an error with the focal length.

Seeing as you can't even write "there ARE a few users there" perhaps you're not qualified to comment, maybe you're biased against good grammar.
 
xaviergut said:
Actually, the 20x magnification focus assist is a very good help, but it would be even better with a 6.5 inches screen of a smartphone
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Definitely, camera LCDs now look very outdated and small compared to a phone with a higher quality screen.

You could forget that clunky hotshoe holder idea and just sellotape it onto the back of the camera. :D

About your video out to phone idea via USB, I'm not sure this can be done. Some high end phones have video out but never heard of it coming the other way and phone becoming a monitor.

Is there video output via USB-C in S5ii/S9? Isn't that what the HDMI ports are for?
 
Oíche said:
You could forget that clunky hotshoe holder idea and just sellotape it onto the back of the camera.
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:D hahaha

Oíche said:
Some high end phones have video out but never heard of it coming the other way and phone becoming a monitor.
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Yes, the Sony Xperia smartphones can be connected to the Sony cameras with a USB-C cable and use it as a external monitor:



And there's this app, Monitor +, to enable any smartphone to use it as a external monitor for Sony cameras:



I think the Lumix Lab app as a monitor only works with the Lumix S9...
 
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