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Which lenses are you missing?

I'm dreaming of a ..Z04 Weihnachten018 light telezoom. A 35-150 that is more like 3.5-4.5, or a mirrorless rework of classic 50-200 or 70-210 designs. I have a K-mount 70-150/4 (from Ricoh no less), 430g and 52mm filters - that would do nicely in an AF wrapper.

Many a day I look at my Pentax lenses and wish they would join the Consortium or Alliance, and just sell lenses. Their new KAF 4 mount finally includes electric aperture control, about 6 years too late :rolleyes:

My 40xs and 70 Limited primes will soon be shooting 4:3 on a Lumix L-body! Oh yeah, as noted above - my old Sigma 50/2.8 macro too! :√)
 
cascadian said:
Many a day I look at my Pentax lenses and wish they would join the Consortium or Alliance, and just sell lenses. Their new KAF 4 mount finally includes electric aperture control, about 6 years too late :rolleyes:
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KAF was around in 2016, I'm glad I got rid of Pentax.
cascadian said:
My 40xs and 70 Limited primes will soon be shooting 4:3 on a Lumix L-body! Oh yeah, as noted above - my old Sigma 50/2.8 macro too! :√)
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? 40XS and D70 are APSC lenses and you can't control the aperture.

Adapting Pentax is a terrible idea.
 
It's what I have, so it must do until the fun-money fund refills. The 40 and 70 barely vignette in the corners so 4:3 crop should pass my casual tests. I've no doubt many here would not approve!

I have the pk-L ring from KF with fake aperture control, so no data xfer but the photons are unaffected.
 

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I'll soon be adding an Askar 71F flat-field quadruplet telescope to my lens list for astrophotography; it's basically just a funny looking 490mm f/6.9 prime lens.
 
I add to my old wish list (first 2 spots) 2 lenses. All lenses shall be small and light.

  • 28/2.0 FFL
  • 70-200/ 3.5-4.5 (or 4.5-5.6 to make it smaller) for travel
  • 35-150/4.0 for travel
  • 28-100/4.0 for travel
Not on my "urgent" wish list, but still a desire: Especially from Sigma I would hope for a new and significant smaller version of a 70-200/2.8 over the next 5 years.
 
cascadian said:
It's what I have, so it must do until the fun-money fund refills. The 40 and 70 barely vignette in the corners so 4:3 crop should pass my casual tests. I've no doubt many here would not approve!
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It's not a matter of 'not approving' as it's not native L-mount :D , it's because it handicaps the camera and deprived you of the fantastic Lumix optics. You'd be better using a Pentax DSLR which I used for 12 years. The AF on Lumix simply nails it with the Lumix 24-105 f4 and 70-300 f4.5-f5.6. I thoroughly tested the latter against my Pentax F*300 f4.5 prime and it is sharper/more contrasty at 300mm, also lighter, obviously 70-300 and with the fast accurate AF. These are some of the reasons why I said adaptation is a terrible idea.

I do have a K-L dumb adapter, mainly to use my Samyang 14mm f2.8 but it's MF anyway and I only use it for astro landscape so set once and leave.

I still have other Pentax, CZ, Vivitar and other film lenses. I did a K28 f3.5 versus Lumix 24-105 f4 comparison and that's the last time it'll be adapted. I had the DA40 f2.8 Ltd too amongst other Limiteds, your XS version is going to be horrible to MF with dumb aperture lever... It's just not worth doing IMO. There are use cases for swirly bokeh vintage lenses etc. but besides those I see no point from experience.

So I upsized to Lumix FF S5ii from APSC DSLR but downsized 30+ lenses into these two Lumix zooms which are better than all the others.

The best way to buy Lumix lenses are with the combo deals where if you know what you want you will literally save £1000s. I saved around £1000 as opposed to buying an S5ii, 24-105 and 70-300 individually.

Daumenhoch
 
After I spent some days with my Leica Q3 43 I have to admit, that I really miss a very sharp 43mm FFL in the L-Mount line. If that Leica 43/2.0 Apo lens in that Q3 is really coming from Panasonic, I hope that we will see something similar from Panasonic too. If not, please Sigma, offer a 43 or 45/2.0 i-series which is sharper than the 45/2.8.

Therefoe I update my wish list and add a ranking. My new "wish list" for the L-Mount lens universum (ranking reflects desire):

  1. 43/2.0 (small & compact with an aperture ring, but sharper than the Sigma 45/2.8)
  2. 70-200/4.5-5.6 (small & compact for travel)
  3. 28/2.0 (small & compact with an aperture ring)
  4. 35-150/4.0 (small & compact for travel)
  5. 28-100/4.0 (small & compact for travel)
 
None that I can think of. Lenses that may tempt me however. 40mm f2 or 2.8 pancake. I was at a car show yesterday, and was thinking that a 40-80mm f1.8 zoom would go down a real treat. I imagine it would be chunky though. And expensive.
 
Markuswelder said:
and was thinking that a 40-80mm f1.8 zoom would go down a real treat. I imagine it would be chunky though. And expensive.
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That depends. Sometimes you can play with different variabes to create a compromise that makes the product not too expensive and not too big.

If you change for exmaple the 40-80/1.8 to a 40-80/2.0, this alone could make the zoom already cheaper and/or better and/or smaller. In real life, you will not miss the difference of the F0,2 stops. I also think that the extension on the long end is less difficult than at the short end. A 40-100/2.0 would be probably not really bigger or more expensive than a 40-80/2.0
 
dirk said:
After I spent some days with my Leica Q3 43 I have to admit, that I really miss a very sharp 43mm FFL in the L-Mount line. If that Leica 43/2.0 Apo lens in that Q3 is really coming from Panasonic, I hope that we will see something similar from Panasonic too. If not, please Sigma, offer a 43 or 45/2.0 i-series which is sharper than the 45/2.8.

Therefoe I update my wish list and add a ranking. My new "wish list" for the L-Mount lens universum (ranking reflects desire):

  1. 43/2.0 (small & compact with an aperture ring, but sharper than the Sigma 45/2.8)
  2. 70-200/4.5-5.6 (small & compact for travel)
  3. 28/2.0 (small & compact with an aperture ring)
  4. 35-150/4.0 (small & compact for travel)
  5. 28-100/4.0 (small & compact for travel)
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I certainly agree with the first three of those and would buy the first two.
 
dirk said:
If you change for exmaple the 40-80/1.8 to a 40-80/2.0, this alone could make the zoom already cheaper and/or better and/or smaller. In real life, you will not miss the difference of the F0,2 stops. I also think that the extension on the long end is less difficult than at the short end. A 40-100/2.0 would be probably not really bigger or more expensive than a 40-80/2.0
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Yeah I could live with that. 0.2 f stops is a non issue even without reducing the size and weight. I'd still be happy if it only went to 80 or 85mm though
 
Oíche said:
They could easily do the 43 f2 as they've already designed the optical formula, who wouldn't want this one?
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Depends if it's Leica price or Panasonic price...
 
Jonathan-Mac said:
Depends if it's Leica price or Panasonic price...
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True, they might not think they can charge £800-£1000 for a cupcake Q3 43 with the exact same optics, but then the S 18mm f1.8 is £799.

This lens would be mostly photo orientated as per the Q3 43.

Already we have demand for cupcake 40mm like Nikon's but that is a budget plastic fantastic job but the optics are good, maybe they're more likely to make one of these instead. I'd be more inclined to want a better one like the 43 formula but as you say depends on price, maybe they could do the 43mm for ~£500? although I think that formula has at 7 aspherical elements alone... so no chance £500 :p
 
dirk said:
After I spent some days with my Leica Q3 43 I have to admit, that I really miss a very sharp 43mm FFL in the L-Mount line. If that Leica 43/2.0 Apo lens in that Q3 is really coming from Panasonic, I hope that we will see something similar from Panasonic too. If not, please Sigma, offer a 43 or 45/2.0 i-series which is sharper than the 45/2.8.

Therefoe I update my wish list and add a ranking. My new "wish list" for the L-Mount lens universum (ranking reflects desire):

  1. 43/2.0 (small & compact with an aperture ring, but sharper than the Sigma 45/2.8)
  2. 70-200/4.5-5.6 (small & compact for travel)
  3. 28/2.0 (small & compact with an aperture ring)
  4. 35-150/4.0 (small & compact for travel)
  5. 28-100/4.0 (small & compact for travel)
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So you just hate the Leica q3 part of the nice 43 lens? I fail to see how you would really miss that. Would you sell the q3 if such a lens is available ? Because you do have a fantastic 43 lens. Attached permanently to a truly nice fullframe body, not available for l-mount users.

I rather have a q3 then a l-mount 28/2, and I hope they make a 28/2 so I don’t have to buy a Leica because I can’t justify the price for me. But if I could justify a Leica I probably would not use an l-mount prime if I had that Leica and tell the world I miss a 28 while having an amazing 28 lens attached to an amazing full frame body.

You don’t need a 43 l-mount. It is just your GAS speaking.
 
Vale46 said:
A modern and as compact as possible 135mm f1.8 is what I'm waiting for.
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Or f2 to f2.5 but sharp wide open. And fast focusing and half-macro please.
 
As a slight skew on this thread, how about lenses in L-mount that need replacing because the v1.0 versions aren't up to it?

I'd put the following onto that list:

- Lumix 28-200. IQ at the long end is poor. Overall, it's too small to deliver decent IQ. Look at the Tamron 28-200 to see how it could be done.

- Lumix 40mm f8 pancake thing. Way too basic for its price, esp when compared to the Nikon 40mm f2.8.

- Sigma 45mm f2.8 i-series. Underperforms the other lenses in the i-series line up.

- Lumix 70-200 f2.8. Poor weight/size vs performance trade-off compared to the Sigma 70-200 f2.8.
 
And in terms of missing lenses, I think we need an f2.8 fisheye with AF. The Sigma 15mm f1.4 is too big, too heavy, and too expensive for most people.
 
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