I don't know exactly how to do it, but this guy explains how to use the S5 OG with the video assist and in the minute 4:20 says that it is somehow possible:
I think I will get a BMVA 12g in my next purchase.
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What has to happen that you get out of GAS?
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I think I will get a BMVA 12g in my next purchase.
Well, what could cure this syndrome?
When I bought my S5IIx on Black Friday 2023 I mistakenly thought that I wouldn't need another camera for a long time, because it is the perfect hybrid camera in my opinion, but the world of video really hooks you and you realize that with just one camera for audiovisual creations such as interviews, podcasts, documentaries, etc. you are limited. That was the reason that led me to purchase the Lumix S5II this summer. I use Lumix's S 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm f1.8 prime lenses for video with both cameras.
In April/May this year I had to film the construction of a Stupa and I used the S5IIx as the main camera, the S5 OG as a b-cam and the Olympus E-M1 Mark iii to make timelapses. This camera failed me three times, so I decided to sell it along with several m43 lenses to buy the S5II. The S5 OG became the property of my wife and she uses it just for photography.
I work in a family business in the contemporary art world, and we need to document things like artworks, gallery and museum exhibitions, interviews, research, portraits of artists, etc. I opted for the L-Mount for all this and I am quite happy.
As for photography: I started in 2018 with the Nikon D7500 dslr, then I acquired the 7100 as second body and finally fell in love with the Nikon df. The sensor on this camera produces incredible colors and the dynamic range is very good. One day I bought the Voigtlander 40mm f2 and since then this camera is like my Leica M, because I prefer to focus through the lens rather than through a rangefinder. Also the Leicas are very expensive...
I have owned many m43 cameras and my favorite is the original G9. That grip is the best I've had to date. I also used the GX9 extensively with the Panaleica 15mm f1.7, until one day I changed this combo for the Ricoh GR3, which is smaller and offers better image quality, in my opinion. This little camera is my EDC photo camera. My EDC video camera is the Sony RX100 VII (which actually belongs to my wife hahahaha), which is a great little gem, so when I want to go light on equipment I go with these two: one for photography and the other for video.
My best photo camera to date is the S1R. I use it mainly for portraits with the 50mm 1.4 PRO from Lumix and the 65mm from Sigma. I also shoot landscapes as a hobby with the 14-28mm, which is possibly my favorite lens on the L-mount, and the 20-60mm. I also have the Leica 24-70mm f2.8 that I got for a good price from a friend for social events, etc., but I don't use it much lately, so I'm thinking about selling it.
So, what would cure my GAS?
A flagship Lumix camera equivalent to the Sony A1 or the Nikon Z8/Z9.
If next Tuesday, October 8, Lumix announces the S1Hii, I don't know if I will consider purchasing it because I have always thought that for video it is more practical to have 2 very good mid-range cameras than a single outstanding camera.
If Lumix announced a flagship camera that was optimal for photo and video, I would consider buying it by selling two or three of my cameras. Right now my next goal is to buy a Blackmagic video assist 12g., a V battery and the V-mount battery plate.
As for cameras and lenses, I think I'm going to wait for Black Friday at the end of November to see offers. I'm interested in the 100mm macro from Lumix. And I don't have any zooms, because I have used them very little when I had them in m43. Oh, and there's the 18-40mm from Lumix... Hahaha
Ah, and I need a good HDR monitor... And, and, and
hahaha
When I bought my S5IIx on Black Friday 2023 I mistakenly thought that I wouldn't need another camera for a long time, because it is the perfect hybrid camera in my opinion, but the world of video really hooks you and you realize that with just one camera for audiovisual creations such as interviews, podcasts, documentaries, etc. you are limited. That was the reason that led me to purchase the Lumix S5II this summer. I use Lumix's S 24mm, 35mm, 50mm and 85mm f1.8 prime lenses for video with both cameras.
In April/May this year I had to film the construction of a Stupa and I used the S5IIx as the main camera, the S5 OG as a b-cam and the Olympus E-M1 Mark iii to make timelapses. This camera failed me three times, so I decided to sell it along with several m43 lenses to buy the S5II. The S5 OG became the property of my wife and she uses it just for photography.
I work in a family business in the contemporary art world, and we need to document things like artworks, gallery and museum exhibitions, interviews, research, portraits of artists, etc. I opted for the L-Mount for all this and I am quite happy.
As for photography: I started in 2018 with the Nikon D7500 dslr, then I acquired the 7100 as second body and finally fell in love with the Nikon df. The sensor on this camera produces incredible colors and the dynamic range is very good. One day I bought the Voigtlander 40mm f2 and since then this camera is like my Leica M, because I prefer to focus through the lens rather than through a rangefinder. Also the Leicas are very expensive...
I have owned many m43 cameras and my favorite is the original G9. That grip is the best I've had to date. I also used the GX9 extensively with the Panaleica 15mm f1.7, until one day I changed this combo for the Ricoh GR3, which is smaller and offers better image quality, in my opinion. This little camera is my EDC photo camera. My EDC video camera is the Sony RX100 VII (which actually belongs to my wife hahahaha), which is a great little gem, so when I want to go light on equipment I go with these two: one for photography and the other for video.
My best photo camera to date is the S1R. I use it mainly for portraits with the 50mm 1.4 PRO from Lumix and the 65mm from Sigma. I also shoot landscapes as a hobby with the 14-28mm, which is possibly my favorite lens on the L-mount, and the 20-60mm. I also have the Leica 24-70mm f2.8 that I got for a good price from a friend for social events, etc., but I don't use it much lately, so I'm thinking about selling it.
So, what would cure my GAS?
A flagship Lumix camera equivalent to the Sony A1 or the Nikon Z8/Z9.
If next Tuesday, October 8, Lumix announces the S1Hii, I don't know if I will consider purchasing it because I have always thought that for video it is more practical to have 2 very good mid-range cameras than a single outstanding camera.
If Lumix announced a flagship camera that was optimal for photo and video, I would consider buying it by selling two or three of my cameras. Right now my next goal is to buy a Blackmagic video assist 12g., a V battery and the V-mount battery plate.
As for cameras and lenses, I think I'm going to wait for Black Friday at the end of November to see offers. I'm interested in the 100mm macro from Lumix. And I don't have any zooms, because I have used them very little when I had them in m43. Oh, and there's the 18-40mm from Lumix... Hahaha
Ah, and I need a good HDR monitor... And, and, and
hahaha
CharlesH
LMF-Patron Gold
This can depend on shutter angle. I tend to shoot video for TV display where there is judder control and may shoot at narrower shutter angles if needed. On the other hand I do quite a bit of 60p where the 180 degree shutter angle is generally okay.
Snowlexx
Active Member
I bought my first digital camera in 2004 - Minolta S414. Until she drowned while kayaking in the summer of 2005.
After which it was purchased KonicaMinolta A2, which I used until 2010 and which is still alive.
At the end of 2010, my first child was born and I wanted to improve the quality of the photos, so I bought Nikon D3100 + 18-50/3.5-5.6 + Tamron 70-300/4-5.6
In 2013, upgraded to Nikon D300s + 16-85/3.5-5.6 + Tamron 70-300/4-5.6
And in 2014 to Fujifilm S5 Pro + Tamron 28-75/2.8 + Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 + Sigma 8-16/4.5-5.6 + Sigma 50/1.4
I used this camera for a long 7 years, until I began to notice that it spends most of its time on the shelf. And then the period of searching for the "perfect" camera began.
08 2021 – 10 2021: Sony A7 + 28-60/4-5.6 + 24-240/3.5-6.3 (bought used $1000, sold $800)
I did not find the "magic" of the full frame - the camera at that time was already very outdated and very inconvenient.
10-2021 – 11 2021: Fujifilm X-S10 + 18-55/2.8-4 (bought new $1000, sold $700)
I really liked this camera, but suddenly winter came, I put on gloves and realized that it was impossible to use the camera - the buttons were too small and recessed into the body.
Then I decided to try to downgrade the M43. I found the most cheapest variants at a flea market and bought them:
11 2021 – 03 2022: Panasonic G9 + 8-18/2.8-4 + 12-60/2.8-4 + 35-100/2.8 + 100-300 (bought used $1800, sold $2500)
In February 2022, well-known tragic events occurred, I was seized with panic and I sold the entire set very quickly and much more expensive than I bought.
I took as a replacement:
03 2022 – 06 2022: Sony A77 + Minolta 28-105/3.5-4.5 + Minolta 28-135/4-4.5 Minolta 70-210/4 + Minolta 100-400/4.5-6.7 + Tamron 10-24/3.5-4.5 (bought used $700, sold $500)
But I couldn't use this camera for a long time. For those who have tasted the delights of mirrorless cameras, it's hard on DSLRs.
The choice fell on Fuji again:
06 2022 – 09 2022: Fujifilm X-H1 + 10-24/4 + 16-80/4 (bought used $1200, sold $1000)
It's a great camera, but I wanted to shoot series faster and have better autofocus, therefore, it was purchased:
09 2022 – 11 2022: Olympus E-M1III + 12-45/4 + 8-25/4 + 40-150/4-5.6 + 70-300/4-5.6 + 45/1.8 (bought new $2000, sold $1700)
Many people praise this camera. It seemed to me that the G9 is much more convenient to use. So I went back to the G9 (again). But this time I carefully chose the offers, looking for used ones, but in a condition "like new"
11 2022 – 11 2023: Panasonic G9 + 8-18/2.8-4 + 12-60/2.8-4 + 35-100/2.8 II + Yongnuo 25/1.7 (bought used $2000, sold $2300)
At the end of 2023, temporary financial difficulties arose, so I had to switch to a simpler camera:
11 2023 – 03 2024: Panasonic G7 + 14-140/4-5.6 + 14/2.5 (bought used $600, sold $600)
But as soon as the situation stabilized, I finally got a more suitable camera:
03 2024 – till now: Panasonic S5II + 20-60 (bought used $1500)
This camera suits me almost 100% and I'm not going to change it yet.
As for the plans, ideally I would like to assemble a set of 3 zooms (wide-angle, standard and tele) and 35 mm prime.
I ordered Meike 35/2 ($200), it should arrive in a week.
I'm really looking forward to the 18-40 release. This is a very suitable lens for my tasks.
I really like 28-200, but I can't afford it yet. Let's see what Panasonic will offer on October 8th. Theoretically, 28-75 may be interesting.
P.S.: I apologize for my English. This is a Google translate.
After which it was purchased KonicaMinolta A2, which I used until 2010 and which is still alive.
At the end of 2010, my first child was born and I wanted to improve the quality of the photos, so I bought Nikon D3100 + 18-50/3.5-5.6 + Tamron 70-300/4-5.6
In 2013, upgraded to Nikon D300s + 16-85/3.5-5.6 + Tamron 70-300/4-5.6
And in 2014 to Fujifilm S5 Pro + Tamron 28-75/2.8 + Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 + Sigma 8-16/4.5-5.6 + Sigma 50/1.4
I used this camera for a long 7 years, until I began to notice that it spends most of its time on the shelf. And then the period of searching for the "perfect" camera began.
08 2021 – 10 2021: Sony A7 + 28-60/4-5.6 + 24-240/3.5-6.3 (bought used $1000, sold $800)
I did not find the "magic" of the full frame - the camera at that time was already very outdated and very inconvenient.
10-2021 – 11 2021: Fujifilm X-S10 + 18-55/2.8-4 (bought new $1000, sold $700)
I really liked this camera, but suddenly winter came, I put on gloves and realized that it was impossible to use the camera - the buttons were too small and recessed into the body.
Then I decided to try to downgrade the M43. I found the most cheapest variants at a flea market and bought them:
11 2021 – 03 2022: Panasonic G9 + 8-18/2.8-4 + 12-60/2.8-4 + 35-100/2.8 + 100-300 (bought used $1800, sold $2500)
In February 2022, well-known tragic events occurred, I was seized with panic and I sold the entire set very quickly and much more expensive than I bought.
I took as a replacement:
03 2022 – 06 2022: Sony A77 + Minolta 28-105/3.5-4.5 + Minolta 28-135/4-4.5 Minolta 70-210/4 + Minolta 100-400/4.5-6.7 + Tamron 10-24/3.5-4.5 (bought used $700, sold $500)
But I couldn't use this camera for a long time. For those who have tasted the delights of mirrorless cameras, it's hard on DSLRs.
The choice fell on Fuji again:
06 2022 – 09 2022: Fujifilm X-H1 + 10-24/4 + 16-80/4 (bought used $1200, sold $1000)
It's a great camera, but I wanted to shoot series faster and have better autofocus, therefore, it was purchased:
09 2022 – 11 2022: Olympus E-M1III + 12-45/4 + 8-25/4 + 40-150/4-5.6 + 70-300/4-5.6 + 45/1.8 (bought new $2000, sold $1700)
Many people praise this camera. It seemed to me that the G9 is much more convenient to use. So I went back to the G9 (again). But this time I carefully chose the offers, looking for used ones, but in a condition "like new"
11 2022 – 11 2023: Panasonic G9 + 8-18/2.8-4 + 12-60/2.8-4 + 35-100/2.8 II + Yongnuo 25/1.7 (bought used $2000, sold $2300)
At the end of 2023, temporary financial difficulties arose, so I had to switch to a simpler camera:
11 2023 – 03 2024: Panasonic G7 + 14-140/4-5.6 + 14/2.5 (bought used $600, sold $600)
But as soon as the situation stabilized, I finally got a more suitable camera:
03 2024 – till now: Panasonic S5II + 20-60 (bought used $1500)
This camera suits me almost 100% and I'm not going to change it yet.
As for the plans, ideally I would like to assemble a set of 3 zooms (wide-angle, standard and tele) and 35 mm prime.
I ordered Meike 35/2 ($200), it should arrive in a week.
I'm really looking forward to the 18-40 release. This is a very suitable lens for my tasks.
I really like 28-200, but I can't afford it yet. Let's see what Panasonic will offer on October 8th. Theoretically, 28-75 may be interesting.
P.S.: I apologize for my English. This is a Google translate.
pdk42
Moderator
After having spent a lovely autumn morning out with my camera, I now can answer your question definitively - get out and shoot with the gear you have!
S1R with 70-200 f4.
- Panasonic - DC-S1R
- LUMIX S 70-200/F4
- 200.0 mm
- ƒ/4
- 1/30 sec
- Pattern
- Auto exposure
- ISO 100
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pdk42
Moderator
Make sure you try it before you buy it. I've shot with three copies now. One was terrible, the other two were average at best at the long end. It's nowhere as good as the 20-60 or 14-28, both of which are in the same build/price category (well, actually, the 28-200 is more expensive than the others which I think is a temporary position - for its build quality and performance it should be 40% cheaper than current prices).
Nevyn72
LMF-Patron Gold
Truely an excellent picture!
pdk42
Moderator
Thank you. The camera and lens played a big part. Maybe the 70-200 is a bit larger than I'd like, but it's hard to argue with its performance.
Nevyn72
LMF-Patron Gold
Very good lens and camera, but a camera can only be as good as the skill of the person behind it.
JamesMorgan
New Member
I have been using cameras for over 40 years, although with a 20 year break in the middle whilst I was too occupied with work/family. I re-engaged seriously back in the early 2000's with a Minolta film camera, then gradually migrated to digital via Kodak, then m43 and finally L-mount. I still use my m43 but increasingly L-mount has become my prefered system. I have always spent a lot of time researching options for new gear (even when I was a student and could rarely afford any of the options I was looking at).
More recently I have finally acknowledged that I actually prefer the act of researching new options more than the act of buying the gear. It's not that new gear has disappointed - it has usually been fully in line with expectations, but any improvements are fairly incremental. It's just that I love the activty of doing the research - putting together sophisticated spreadsheets, comparing all the different options, weighted matrices etc etc. So now I simply continue doing all the research, but probably with little intent of buying anything new. I'm not sure whether that means I'm cured of GAS, but my wallet certainly notices the difference.
More recently I have finally acknowledged that I actually prefer the act of researching new options more than the act of buying the gear. It's not that new gear has disappointed - it has usually been fully in line with expectations, but any improvements are fairly incremental. It's just that I love the activty of doing the research - putting together sophisticated spreadsheets, comparing all the different options, weighted matrices etc etc. So now I simply continue doing all the research, but probably with little intent of buying anything new. I'm not sure whether that means I'm cured of GAS, but my wallet certainly notices the difference.
This addiction is very familar to me...
Why? 'Sophisticated' spreadsheets on specs? Who needs to do this? A specification enthusiast? Weighted matrices? Cmon man
who are you trying to impress here? Show some photos!
I do not think that he wants to impress us. I guess he just enjoys it to do.
But I can only speak for myself. There are 3 reason why I am doing it.
But I do think many users would be more happy and switch less often gear, if they would start with some basic spreadsheets before they buy something. If you put it on paper/excel sheet, you are forced to think about it objectively. You immediately see, if you betray yourself.
And even if you do betray yourself, you know why, are fully aware of it and not disappointed afterwards (i.e. to buy a Leica Q3 43, althogh an S9 can do almost the same)
But I can only speak for myself. There are 3 reason why I am doing it.
- Thanks to these spreadsheets, I have an objective way to evaluate in which system I want to invest. At my peak, I had 4 different camera systems. This was at the time when Nikon and Canon switched to MLU and L-Mount was announced. Nobody knew who will offer which lens when and whether they go in a direction I like or whether I like what they produce. I had Nikon Z, MFT, Fuji and later L-Mount. Only because of these spreadsheets and trying out these different systems at the same time I could recognize that Nikon Z and Fuji have a problem (in my view) and maybe also MFT vs Fuji has to be reconsidered.
- The second reason is that I had in the past almost every year with the management of different brands meetings to discuss the market, potential cooperations etc. You really have to know the market by heart. You have to know all the advantages and disadvantages of each system and be able to proove it with numbers. This is why they are interested to talk with me. And this is the only way to bring in ideas which could benefit the different communities/their costumers (and at the end of the day the brand benenifts from this).
- Last but not least it is for the communities. Our L-Mount lens overview database would not exist without these spreadsheets. This gives new prospects an easy overview what they can expect when they buy into L-Mount for example. You will not find anywhere a similar in depth but easy to navigate and filter kind of overview. Even not on the official L-Mount site.
But I do think many users would be more happy and switch less often gear, if they would start with some basic spreadsheets before they buy something. If you put it on paper/excel sheet, you are forced to think about it objectively. You immediately see, if you betray yourself.
And even if you do betray yourself, you know why, are fully aware of it and not disappointed afterwards (i.e. to buy a Leica Q3 43, althogh an S9 can do almost the same)
JamesMorgan
New Member
Don't get me wrong - first love definitely taking photos, 2nd love researching new gear, 3rd (and very distant 3rd) buying new gear. But since you ask...Why? 'Sophisticated' spreadsheets on specs? Who needs to do this? A specification enthusiast? Weighted matrices? Cmon man
- LUMIX S 20-60/F3.5-5.6
- 28.0 mm
- ƒ/8
- 1/500 sec
- Pattern
- -0.7
- ISO 200
Nice, where is this? Obviously USA
JamesMorgan
New Member
Zion National Park (Canyon Overlook)
The manufacturers are doing a great job of killing my desire for anything new. Sensors and lenses are now, for the most part, so good that there’s no need to upgrade. Most cameras are variations on the DSLR style mirrorless format which I don’t particularly like. The real advancements are in areas I don’t need or care about such as subject tracking and high frame rates: I’m photographing landscapes and architecture for the most part so I don’t need 120fps and subject eye tracking to match.
The one thing thing that bothers me is that I’m pretty heavily invested in L-Mount and am wondering what the future will hold in terms of high resolution cameras: Sigma have said the future of the fp series hasn’t been decided yet although they would like to evolve the line, while Panasonic have killed off the S1R with no current sign of a successor. Leica are out of the question: I’m not going spend £6,000 on an SL3.
All that said, Sigma could certainly tempt me with some new additions to their I-Series lenses...
The one thing thing that bothers me is that I’m pretty heavily invested in L-Mount and am wondering what the future will hold in terms of high resolution cameras: Sigma have said the future of the fp series hasn’t been decided yet although they would like to evolve the line, while Panasonic have killed off the S1R with no current sign of a successor. Leica are out of the question: I’m not going spend £6,000 on an SL3.
All that said, Sigma could certainly tempt me with some new additions to their I-Series lenses...
I agree
I am sure there will be a successor in 2025. Same for the S1H.
Where did you read that?
Sigma never offered many camera at the same time. Before L-Mount, Sigma had always only one camera to offer at the same time and this one camera was upgraded over the years. S14, S15, S1M.
With the fp, Sigma offered 2 versions of the same camera more or less. But with a different target group than pure photographers. The question is whether Sigma would go the route of the fp or would create a different body with L-Mount, with an EVF and a kind of grip.
What I would hope for would be a Sigma compact camers like the DP1M, DP2M and DP3M. With a built in lens. These cameras were excellent. But hopefully this time with an EVF.