S9, S5, S5ii/x, S1Rii... what's next?

[dirk]

According to the newest rumors on L-rumors, it will take still a lot of time for a S1H successor. I doubt that it will come in 2025, if you read this:

S1H successor:
Panasonic is also actively exploring the planning of the follow-up products of LUMIX S1H. LUMIX S1H, as a camera positioned for film creation, has a unique position in the market. With the continuous development and changes in the field of film micro camera, Panasonic has received a large number of opinions and suggestions from all sides. In terms of product form, there are different expectations from users and the market. Some want the product to be similar to the FX3, cutting out the warship section and focusing on cinema and video functions; some prefer to keep the micro-single form while strengthening the video function; and others expect to make it a square camera similar to the FX6. In terms of functional requirements, features such as 8K 60p or even 8K 120p video shooting and built-in ND filters have become the focus of users’ attention. In order to better meet market demands, Panasonic merged with its professional-grade system imaging division in 2024, integrating the technical resources of both parties and engaging in deeper and closer discussions with technicians. Although the launch date of the next generation of the LUMIX S1H has not yet been determined, it can be seen that Panasonic is putting its best foot forward in the development of this product, and is striving to bring users an even better tool for film creation.

 

[dirk]

I found an interesting article from Thom Hogan about the CP+. He mentions also L-Mount:

...note that the L-mount is getting traction in some of those Chinese optic vendors. The only reason I can think that would be the case is that there's a Chinese L-mount camera coming (DJI already is an official L-mount supporter).

The View After CP+ | Cameras and Photography Explained | Thom Hogan

What did the CP+ show provide us?

www.bythom.com

Maybe one of the next cameras outside of Panasonic will be a Chinese one?

 

[Quentinquirelino]

Fitting to the topic, Panasonic just registered another camera. There are a total number of four registrations with jet unknown model connection. One is the S1RII, but the three others are completely unknown. All four registrations indicate more higher end models because of registered frequencies. Seems like there's a lot to expect from Panasonic this year.

Panasonic did register another camera overseas: Now a total of three cameras should be announced soon! - L mount system camera rumors and news

On 28 February, Panasonic registered another new camera in China. We have now registered a total of three cameras in Asia that have not yet been announced. The next camera will be announced in April, and it's a ‘niche’ L-mount camera that is NOT the S1HII. I don't know yet what the other two cameras

www.l-rumors.com

 

[Nevyn72]

I found an interesting article from Thom Hogan about the CP+. He mentions also L-Mount:

The View After CP+ | Cameras and Photography Explained | Thom Hogan

What did the CP+ show provide us?

www.bythom.com

Maybe one of the next cameras outside of Panasonic will be a Chinese one?

DJI already has 2 camera's with the L-mount, although very niche.
And presumebly the DJI RONIN 4D-8K uses the same sensor as the S1Rii.

I would love a more standard DJI camera (like mirrorless or boxcam formfactor), they are good in shaking up the industry.

 

[RuleOfThirds]

What they need is a fixed lens Leica Q2.5 competitor. A rangefinder style fixed focal 28/2.0 with the sensor of SR1ii. Smaller and lighter then Q3, but with the flip screen from SR1ii.

Or with a lens akin to the tri-elmar. Not a zoom lens but a lens that has 3 fixed positions. 28-35-50

 

[Travis Butler]

What they need is a fixed lens Leica Q2.5 competitor. A rangefinder style fixed focal 28/2.0 with the sensor of SR1ii. Smaller and lighter then Q3, but with the flip screen from SR1ii.

Or with a lens akin to the tri-elmar. Not a zoom lens but a lens that has 3 fixed positions. 28-35-50

Snort.

I've always wanted to try a Tri-Elmar, but...

 

[dirk]

Or with a lens akin to the tri-elmar. Not a zoom lens but a lens that has 3 fixed positions. 28-35-50

Kazuto Yamaki explained in the PetaPixel Interview at CP+ this:

Nowadays the lens design technology is capable to design zoom lenses with a better image quality at similar or smaller sizes. This was not the case 20 or 30 years ago. Therefore something like a Tri-Elmar is very unlikely to happen.

 

[RuleOfThirds]

Nowadays the lens design technology is capable to design zoom lenses with a better image quality at similar or smaller sizes. This was not the case 20 or 30 years ago. Therefore something like a Tri-Elmar is very unlikely to happen.

too bad... always wanted to try one because I think it is way more fun then a zoom. I liked the concept.

Anyway, a full frame rangefinder camera to compete with Fuji would be highly appreciated, and I think that can help Panasonic enormously. Because they will make it of course also quite good at movie. And realtime LUTs. Just drop the gimmick of the OVF to save space, and make it about the same size and weight as the X100VI, and you have a killer product. I would be fine with 35 too.. but 28 is better, because with 44mp you can always use a crop.