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News New firmware just out for S1, S1R, S5II, S5IIx and four S-series lenses!

dirk said:
Correction. The normal S5ii will have the same streaming upgrade like the X version
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S5iiX updates Lumix Lab:
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S5II updates Lumix Lab:
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Information is from the Panasonic website.
 

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Very cool that even 2 years after its release, Lumix still updating the S5ii(X). Surprisingly, I'm very happy that the additionnal markers coming on S5ii. I will need to work on the shortcut menu again in order to reorganize it a bit.
 
At the release of the S5II, I had not felt that the upgrade from the S5 would be big enough for me. But I have to say that may have changed with the last couple of updates. However I'm still happy with the S5. But I'm starting to thinking.

Edit: To the user of the original S1 and S1R. Your cameras got some small updates as well.
 
WOW, THAT IS A LOT OF UPGRADES.

I just upgraded the my S5II, S5IIx, GH7, 16-35mm, 24-105mm and 70-200mm. (Phew, six upgrades.)

This all went well, and I checked each camera with the new LUMIX Lab and they all came up right away and worked correctly. I'm now deleting LUMIX Sync.

Fortunately I had already used Hybrid Zoom with the S9 so this was easy to check out. I especially like the 70-200mm with hybrid zoom set to M. The stabilization is great, with good picture quality out to 280mm. I have normally used this lens with a 1.4x extender, but won't use this anymore.

Also Sony just had another big upgrade for the A1. That added to the major upgrade they had several months ago and it's like learning a new camera. This plus the three Lumix camera upgrades and I'll be back to camera school for a while.
 
CharlesH said:
This plus the three Lumix camera upgrades and I'll be back to camera school for a while.
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I wish we would see in the industry a change more towards FW updates for older models (even as a payed addon) than releasing every 2 years a new camera.
 
dirk said:
I wish we would see in the industry a change more towards FW updates for older models (even as a payed addon) than releasing every 2 years a new camera.
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Yes, that would be fine. But from my point of view the release cycles are already getting longer and longer (with some exceptions). 10-20 years ago some manufacturers updated some cameras every year, like Canon with EOS 300,350,400,450,500,550………
But today the quantities are much lower for production because of much lower sales. So really new models with really upgraded hardware will only released every 4-5 years in the future.
But what we see today (e.g OMDS) that they release a new camera with only minimum upgraded hardware, only for software. That is the topic to force new sales without big efforts for engineering, only software development…
For me Lumix forgot to do development improvements for the S1/S1R and S5, but what was done for the S5II for the last year was really good and I hope this will go on in the future! The hardware setup of the S5II looks good enough to stay for some more years…
 
dirk said:
I wish we would see in the industry a change more towards FW updates for older models (even as a payed addon) than releasing every 2 years a new camera.
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I’d love to see Live Comp on the S1 models, and given that the OG S5 supports it, I’m sure there are no hardware restrictions. Likewise, adding the legacy lens data feature that’s on the S5ii would be nice to have in the older models - again, no hardware limitations to that. But it won’t happen.
 
Interestingly, I saw a post on a LUMIX FB group by one of the Panasonic UK experts (Matt). He was responding to someone asking why the S1 models didn’t get the upgrades that the newer models have had. He explicitly said that the old models have old and unsupported hardware.

Now, that is probably true, but it does mean he’s officially saying that the only high end models Panasonic have for sale are obsolete! I guess we all know that, but it’s interesting to see Panasonic saying it directly.
 
pdk42 said:
Interestingly, I saw a post on a LUMIX FB group by one of the Panasonic UK experts (Matt). He was responding to someone asking why the S1 models didn’t get the upgrades that the newer models have had. He explicitly said that the old models have old and unsupported hardware.

Now, that is probably true, but it does mean he’s officially saying that the only high end models Panasonic have for sale are obsolete! I guess we all know that, but it’s interesting to see Panasonic saying it directly.
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I think the term "old and unsupported hardware" is only half of the truth. The S1/S1R was released in 2019 and development started years before. I expect these bodies are using a different technical environment internally. So of course it would be possible to add many different things, but it must be done with other programming language or something else. The new cameras are build on a different base architecture so new developments can not just integrated to the old cameras...

And sometimes this could be based on simple restrictions, like the old programmers are not in the company any more or the marketing has decided the additional effort is not worth the investment for some thousand users. If they had sold some 100k cameras the decision could be different....
 
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