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Salli from Switzerland

SoJuJo

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While I was googling „Sigma fp-L user group“ and swiping away all ads and FB groups I stumbled over this forum and thought it might be nice to see what happens here and why.

I‘m an L-mount user since late 2020, based in Switzerland and switched to L-mount after 10 years of Nikon. At first, I was attracted to the S1R which I tried before starting a mirror-free photo-life with Z 7 back in 2019. I felt Nikon was doing the same thing they already failed at with their system „1“: Always adding more features instead of getting some flaws straight. Expensive lenses, bodies (Z 7 and Z 6) not at the same level of usability and durability like my D850, which feels like the S1R. But the S1R‘s shutter sounds much better… :)

Another thing was bothering me: My dear Sigma lenses could be adapted by FTZ adapter, but the adapter was one of the many rather mediocre designs in the line-up adding to „no battery grip, no fully articulated LCD, display quirks, U1..3 setting quirks and many more. So, before X-Mas 2020 I decided to abandon Nikon and see what I can do with L-mount. Starting with a S5 and it‘s excellent 20-60, adding quickly a couple of Sigma and few Panasonic lenses, S1R, S5II and fp-L, I never looked back to Z-world, sometimes I‘m still using the D850 as it‘s battery life easily outperforms most ML bodies.

Especially the fp-L was a rather full bag of surprises, most of them very pleasant. I designed my own grip with the generous help of Sigma, offering downloads of 3D files, fantastic! I‘m not very interested in videos, far too much work, equipment and knowledge needed before the results look good to me. I prefer telling my stories with a still image. I rented a SL2-S last year and was surprised how easy and intuitive if felt to use it. 2 weeks ago I rented a SL3 and was surprised again, unfortunately to the opposite. Maybe I got a bad copy or it was set-up in a weird way, but that camera I would not accept as a free gift. Plus, the fp-L was in my comparisons always the winner.

Currently I‘m re-writing the fp-L‘s manual. I guess, the content was translated from Japanese to English to German and suffered some damage along the way. Maybe the re-writing will help me to understand the bits which are either poorly translated or were misunderstood by the writers of the first version. If the lenses would be of the quality of the camera manual, I would have stopped buying them after the first one
 
Welcome Salli!! It is always interesting to read things about the Sigma cameras. Most of us are Lumix users. There are a few of Leica SL users too. Anyway, your experience with Nikon Z shows that the L-mount alliance is really underrated...
 
"Salli" is a common form of greeting here in Switzerland. Not my name.

Don't bother, the way the forum is cluttered with advertisements after each refresh, makes me leave quickly.
 
Welcome @SoJuJo ! It's great to have you here!
 
Greetings @SoJuJu!
 
Not sure if I'm reading it correctly, but going by his? last post, he? may have already left the building. Which would be a bit of a shame
 
Not sure if I'm reading it correctly, but going by his? last post, he? may have already left the building. Which would be a bit of a shame
Not completely left, but a forum which consists about 50% of rather humungous advertisement of ERP systems, women underwear and Spätzlesuche is not really attractive to me. I have to look really careful to find informations. Now I guess somehow it has to be financed, but that way I doubt I'll ever donate something.

I'm also no longer looking at l-rumors for those reasons. And the other reason is the rumors-forum owner is not exactly a big friend of orthography, and the Lumix owners are also a majority there. And very keen on spectacular video specs, less so about photography related improvements :(. So, maybe I'll remain reading from time to time.

There are also not many fp L users here, more precise German native speakers? I started to rewrite the rather horrible and difficult to use manual and sometimes it would be nice to send some texts to read them more carefully than the technical writers of Sigma did their job. Yes, and I'm a "he" :)
 
Not completely left, but a forum which consists about 50% of rather humungous advertisement of ERP systems, women underwear and Spätzlesuche is not really attractive to me. I have to look really careful to find informations. Now I guess somehow it has to be financed, but that way I doubt I'll ever donate something.

I'm also no longer looking at l-rumors for those reasons. And the other reason is the rumors-forum owner is not exactly a big friend of orthography, and the Lumix owners are also a majority there. And very keen on spectacular video specs, less so about photography related improvements :(. So, maybe I'll remain reading from time to time.

There are also not many fp L users here, more precise German native speakers? I started to rewrite the rather horrible and difficult to use manual and sometimes it would be nice to send some texts to read them more carefully than the technical writers of Sigma did their job. Yes, and I'm a "he" :)
You are welcome, there are here people from all over Europe, USA, Australia, New Zealand, Asia etc.

About the advertisements: the site costs money to maintain, so I can understand why this is necessary. However you can, just like myself and others, become a Patron and than you never see any advertisements (when logged in).

I DO really like this forum, good information and a friendly atmosphere. I am also member of some other forums, but this one is which a like and use the most.
 
I also like the forum, hate the ads. Unfortunately becoming a patron won't be an option until I'm full-time employed again. :(

@SoJuJo : I have both an fp and a Lumix S5, but the fp is what I use 80-90% of the time. It's not suitable for big heavy lenses, and I wish the EVF were part of the body instead of a clunky add-on; that said, I really like the size of the fp, I like the way you can customize the ergonomics by changing grips, and I like the simple controls.
 
About the advertisements: the site costs money to maintain, so I can understand why this is necessary. However you can, just like myself and others, become a Patron and than you never see any advertisements (when logged in).
Yes, I am a standard-level patron and in my local currency it costs me the equivalent of AUD 13.5 cents per day, less than a dollar per week. I find that worthwhile because I dislike the ads.
 
It's quite quiet, just the 10 odd usual suspects. Everywhere is quiet, maybe normal people sick of forums?

Pentax forums have it all in one place but that's a total cult where you don't dare go.

I was glad to leave that nonsense not that I did much in it... Total whackos.... David Koresh esque over what? A camera system... Sad bastids :p
 
It's quite quiet, just the 10 odd usual suspects. Everywhere is quiet, maybe normal people sick of forums?

Pentax forums have it all in one place but that's a total cult where you don't dare go.

I was glad to leave that nonsense not that I did much in it... Total whackos.... David Koresh esque over what? A camera system... Sad bastids :p
Here you can say I'll sell Lumix as it's shit, show other gear etc. nobody cares... It's camera democracy.
 
@SoJuJo : I have both an fp and a Lumix S5, but the fp is what I use 80-90% of the time. It's not suitable for big heavy lenses, and I wish the EVF were part of the body instead of a clunky add-on; that said, I really like the size of the fp, I like the way you can customize the ergonomics by changing grips, and I like the simple controls.
As long as I can hold the heavy lens with my left hand (and operate its controls) I see the fp L as kind of an MF back. There were times when 50 MP was MF only ;) . It's kind of a Lego-camera (or "let's go!" camera), I just wish the interface between EVF and camera had gotten a more clever design, especially one where the tiny handle of the tripod screw could get a bit more torque.
For architecture and for adding an extra 24 mm in height to the sensor (not really, it's just three images each shifted by 12mm and then stitched together = 120MP) I like very much that this body doesn't load more weight to the lens' bayonet mount.
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  • Apple - iPhone 14 Pro
  • iPhone 14 Pro back triple camera 6.86mm f/1.78
  • 6.9 mm
  • ƒ/1.78
  • 1/43 sec
  • Spot
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 1000

Lately I did a couple of comparisons because I rented two cameras, a Leica SL3 and a Hasselblad X2D.
In that setup and with not-moving subjects the fp-L does compete with the MF camera. Of course, as 32.9×43.8 mm sensor size is a bit smaller than 36×48 mm. And the SL3 (maybe due to sloppy setup, rental cameras are not always reset to factory defaults) never came close to what the fp L can do. In terms of sharpness (shutter shock of the SL3 wasn't well compensated) and high ISO (mushy shadows and pale highlights at ISO 6400 are nothing I'm used to from fp L) and highly complicated menus. I had no regret bringing back the SL3. the X2D on the contrary – now I understand the long delivery times of nearly everything of this system.

That was amazing to find out.
 
There are also not many fp L users here, more precise German native speakers?

We do offer also a German sister L-Mount forum:


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So, the forum is Google's property?
No. But this is how it works with Google Ads and all similar agencies The algorythms combined with browser cookies/ history of the individual user determine what you will see.
 
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