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I doubt that this will be fixed. It seems that Panasonic has with the S1Rii the same buffer process as with the Lumix G9ii. The camera shoots first the images and only after the buffer is fulll, it starts writing to the card.
CF express B cards have sustained write speeds between 800 and 1500 MB/s. To clear a 70 shot buffer of 100MB files should take less than 10 seconds. The 20+ seconds currently being demonstrated indicates a pretty severe bottleneck writing to the card. Kind of negates the point of the slot, and the extra cost to the consumer of buying the cards.
 
CF express B cards have sustained write speeds between 800 and 1500 MB/s. To clear a 70 shot buffer of 100MB files should take less than 10 seconds. The 20+ seconds currently being demonstrated indicates a pretty severe bottleneck writing to the card. Kind of negates the point of the slot, and the extra cost to the consumer of buying the cards.
That's what I think. It should be much faster with those card's and maybe even permanent buffer clearance during the burst with more mediocre frame rares, so that the buffer doesn't get stucked. I mean, that camera is abel to record raw video, where it also has to constantly wright higher amount of data to the storage.
 
That's what I think. It should be much faster with those card's and maybe even permanent buffer clearance during the burst with more mediocre frame rares, so that the buffer doesn't get stucked. I mean, that camera is abel to record raw video, where it also has to constantly wright higher amount of data to the storage.
Absolutely, Nikon Z8 has similar resolution and dual CFE/SD card setup, it never drops below about 10 fps while the buffer is being written, clearing the buffer in seconds. Theres no sense having type B cards if the camera can’t take advantage of them.
 
I like the extra resolution and pro-build
I haven't read or watched all of the reviews that are around but I understand that the S1R II is only a little bigger than an S5, which suggests to me that the heavy duty build quality from the original S1 cameras has been dropped in favour of saving weight and size. However, in what I've seen I don't think I've heard any comments on build quality other than that it' sealed.
 
I haven't read or watched all of the reviews that are around but I understand that the S1R II is only a little bigger than an S5, which suggests to me that the heavy duty build quality from the original S1 cameras has been dropped in favour of saving weight and size. However, in what I've seen I don't think I've heard any comments on build quality other than that it' sealed.
That seems like an unwarranted assumption. Materials can make a big difference in build quality - polycarbonate vs magnesium, etc.
 
One of the issues with being an early adopter is RAW support. Capture One supports the S1rII RAW files, but that's it as far as I can tell. On the other hand, support should be fast in coming, because based on my tests the S1rII raws are encoded in the same V8 format as the S5II. I downloaded a raw file from the S1rII (available at dpreview) and used a hex editor to rename the camera from S1RM2 to S5M2 (but only in the first location where it appears.) I then opened the modified raw file using RawTherapee, and it worked great. The default color and exposure settings matched the settings from the jpeg very closely, and I experienced zero issues editing the file, including more advanced edits such as changing the demosaicing algorithm. I was also pleased to see that the EXIF info in the resulting image correctly identifies the camera as the S1RM2, which results from editing only the first instance of the camera name.
 
One of the issues with being an early adopter is RAW support. Capture One supports the S1rII RAW files, but that's it as far as I can tell. On the other hand, support should be fast in coming, because based on my tests the S1rII raws are encoded in the same V8 format as the S5II. I downloaded a raw file from the S1rII (available at dpreview) and used a hex editor to rename the camera from S1RM2 to S5M2 (but only in the first location where it appears.) I then opened the modified raw file using RawTherapee, and it worked great. The default color and exposure settings matched the settings from the jpeg very closely, and I experienced zero issues editing the file, including more advanced edits such as changing the demosaicing algorithm. I was also pleased to see that the EXIF info in the resulting image correctly identifies the camera as the S1RM2, which results from editing only the first instance of the camera name.
Also, given that Capture One tethering played into the roll-out, it seems reasonable to expect support quickly, at least for Capture One. But, very good news that the file format seems unchanged.
 
I downloaded a raw file from the S1rII (available at dpreview) and used a hex editor to rename the camera from S1RM2 to S5M2 (but only in the first location where it appears.) I then opened the modified raw file using RawTherapee, and it worked great.

I tried opening the DPReview samples using Affinity Photo 2 without any modification at all and, to my surprise, they opened successfully with the correct camera name in the metadata. The colours are distinctly off, cold and drab, and the lens corrections aren't being applied, but at least there shouldn't be a long delay thanks to the need for third parties to decode a new file format as there was for the S5ii.

I'm seriously tempted to place a pre-order but I really want to see some more samples from the camera before I commit myself.
 
I am curious to see what the price will be from all those pristine S1R’s. Low iso it is still much more resolution and crop zooming then can be done with S5ii. It is not that now the S1Rii exists the S1R is a turd or something.
 
I haven't read or watched all of the reviews that are around but I understand that the S1R II is only a little bigger than an S5, which suggests to me that the heavy duty build quality from the original S1 cameras has been dropped in favour of saving weight and size. However, in what I've seen I don't think I've heard any comments on build quality other than that it' sealed.
Some of the reviews I read was that the S1RII exhibited a more professional feel in the hands in the way of build quality. Remains to be seen. The Leica SL3 is smaller than the SL2 and the build quality is every bit as good, so I don't think we can equate smaller to lesser in the way of build. I am not saying that you think that this is the case, but I don't expect Lumix's flagship to exude anything but a top quality experience. If by some chance I am not satisfied, I will return it, but I have the S5IIX now as my video and small grab and go camera and I am fine with the balance of weight, build quality and ergonomics. It's not a Leica SL, but I also paid less than a third of the price and it produces outstanding results, especially with my Leica glass.
 
I am curious to see what the price will be from all those pristine S1R’s. Low iso it is still much more resolution and crop zooming then can be done with S5ii. It is not that now the S1Rii exists the S1R is a turd or something.
Actually, I was wondering if the S5ii(X) would be cheaper to get on the second market. I presume there will be both photograpers as videographers who would like to upgrade ...
 
Ordered. Upgrading from a S1R.
In regards concerns with the S1Rii I have just two:
1. The buffer for 70 RAWs in combination with the speed modes 10FPS or 40FPS (nothing in between +1.5 sec pre-burst are really strange. Getting a 20FPS mode in FW 1.0 is more a hack/ workaround
2. The CFexpress speed cannot be rights. This was with the S1R an issues already, but these slots were originally for XQD.

Nevertheless, there is not alternative to the S1Rii when having too much L-Mount lenses already and being too much in love with the inbody functions like HighRes mode ;-)

Does anymore know if the S1Rii also supports Live Composit,the Timelapse/ Stop Motion things and has a AF suitable for stars?
 
Ordered. Upgrading from a S1R.
In regards concerns with the S1Rii I have just two:
1. The buffer for 70 RAWs in combination with the speed modes 10FPS or 40FPS (nothing in between +1.5 sec pre-burst are really strange. Getting a 20FPS mode in FW 1.0 is more a hack/ workaround
Yes. But, it's worth noting that you can change the pre-capture to 1.0 or 0.5 seconds, which should help balance things out a bit in terms of the before/after exposure count ratio.
2. The CFexpress speed cannot be rights. This was with the S1R an issues already, but these slots were originally for XQD.

Nevertheless, there is not alternative to the S1Rii when having too much L-Mount lenses already and being too much in love with the inbody functions like HighRes mode ;-)

Does anymore know if the S1Rii also supports Live Composit,the Timelapse/ Stop Motion things and has a AF suitable for stars?
I've head that LVC is there. Not sure about low-light AF. Hopefully it is still there.
 
100% of my photos get post-processed. I never shoot JPEG.
It shows! I have to admit that lately I have switched back a bit because, frankly, the JPG out of the S1 is just so. damn. good! So especially when I photograph family stuff with lots of more "snapshot" type of photos, I just import the JPGs. But to your point of "getting burned": I do shoot RAW+JPG, but the RAWs just go into the big black NAS hole.

EDIT: Forgot to mention too that I really like several of the profiles, particularly the monochrome ones! And it's nice to have the wide-frame cropping in camera. So effortless!

On m43 thought, it's different: I only and always shoot RAW, not the least because most of the wildlife keepers inevitably will run through DXO PureRaw at some point....
 
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These are my reasons:

- Almost same resolution as the S1R
- Almost as good at high ISO and shadow lifting as the S5
- Smaller and lighter than the S1R
- Latest PDAF & fancy AI AF
- HHHR, Live Comp etc all in one camera
- Latest firmware etc with updates
- Access to Lumix Lab
- Better battery life than S1R

And maybe a few more...
I have not pre-ordered yet, I have Impatience sitting on my left shoulder fighting Sensible on the right :D. I don't really neeeeed it now, but...

In my case it's such a wonderful upgrade from the S1:
- higher resolution at basically same DR, noise, rolling shutter etc.
- Smaller, lighter
- Same body and battery as the G9ii. Nice!
- PDAF
- Faster burst in mechanical and much faster in electronic shutter
- pre-burst
- HHHR
- Love the separation of photo/video/S&Q
- Same great EVF

I think the only thing I might miss are the illuminated buttons sometimes, the second front button next to the mount and the

Honestly, I've had the S1 since launch (almost 6y?) and it's still amazing. So the S1R will realistically cover all I need for the next 10y easily. Sure, maybe one day I might regret having "only" 9 fps mechanical when photographing hummingbirds in Costa Rica but what a first-world edge case problem to have....

Plus I will keep the S1 since the body has gone through a lot including repairs and for the low money I'd get from MPB, I much rather keep it. Nice to have two primes on two bodies in some situations ;)

So yay! Excited!
 
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