Post here if you've ordered an S1Rii

[Lsake]

I doubt that this will be fixed. It seems that Panasonic has with the S1Rii the same buffer process as with the Lumix G9ii. The camera shoots first the images and only after the buffer is fulll, it starts writing to the card.

CF express B cards have sustained write speeds between 800 and 1500 MB/s. To clear a 70 shot buffer of 100MB files should take less than 10 seconds. The 20+ seconds currently being demonstrated indicates a pretty severe bottleneck writing to the card. Kind of negates the point of the slot, and the extra cost to the consumer of buying the cards.

 

[Quentinquirelino]

CF express B cards have sustained write speeds between 800 and 1500 MB/s. To clear a 70 shot buffer of 100MB files should take less than 10 seconds. The 20+ seconds currently being demonstrated indicates a pretty severe bottleneck writing to the card. Kind of negates the point of the slot, and the extra cost to the consumer of buying the cards.

That's what I think. It should be much faster with those card's and maybe even permanent buffer clearance during the burst with more mediocre frame rares, so that the buffer doesn't get stucked. I mean, that camera is abel to record raw video, where it also has to constantly wright higher amount of data to the storage.

 

[Lsake]

That's what I think. It should be much faster with those card's and maybe even permanent buffer clearance during the burst with more mediocre frame rares, so that the buffer doesn't get stucked. I mean, that camera is abel to record raw video, where it also has to constantly wright higher amount of data to the storage.

Absolutely, Nikon Z8 has similar resolution and dual CFE/SD card setup, it never drops below about 10 fps while the buffer is being written, clearing the buffer in seconds. Theres no sense having type B cards if the camera can’t take advantage of them.

 

[Jonathan-Mac]

I like the extra resolution and pro-build

I haven't read or watched all of the reviews that are around but I understand that the S1R II is only a little bigger than an S5, which suggests to me that the heavy duty build quality from the original S1 cameras has been dropped in favour of saving weight and size. However, in what I've seen I don't think I've heard any comments on build quality other than that it' sealed.

 

[Travis Butler]

I haven't read or watched all of the reviews that are around but I understand that the S1R II is only a little bigger than an S5, which suggests to me that the heavy duty build quality from the original S1 cameras has been dropped in favour of saving weight and size. However, in what I've seen I don't think I've heard any comments on build quality other than that it' sealed.

That seems like an unwarranted assumption. Materials can make a big difference in build quality - polycarbonate vs magnesium, etc.

 

[Andreas]

One of the issues with being an early adopter is RAW support. Capture One supports the S1rII RAW files, but that's it as far as I can tell. On the other hand, support should be fast in coming, because based on my tests the S1rII raws are encoded in the same V8 format as the S5II. I downloaded a raw file from the S1rII (available at dpreview) and used a hex editor to rename the camera from S1RM2 to S5M2 (but only in the first location where it appears.) I then opened the modified raw file using RawTherapee, and it worked great. The default color and exposure settings matched the settings from the jpeg very closely, and I experienced zero issues editing the file, including more advanced edits such as changing the demosaicing algorithm. I was also pleased to see that the EXIF info in the resulting image correctly identifies the camera as the S1RM2, which results from editing only the first instance of the camera name.

 

[RuleOfThirds]

100% of my photos get post-processed. I never shoot JPEG.

#metoo

 

[GeorgeHudetz]

One of the issues with being an early adopter is RAW support. Capture One supports the S1rII RAW files, but that's it as far as I can tell. On the other hand, support should be fast in coming, because based on my tests the S1rII raws are encoded in the same V8 format as the S5II. I downloaded a raw file from the S1rII (available at dpreview) and used a hex editor to rename the camera from S1RM2 to S5M2 (but only in the first location where it appears.) I then opened the modified raw file using RawTherapee, and it worked great. The default color and exposure settings matched the settings from the jpeg very closely, and I experienced zero issues editing the file, including more advanced edits such as changing the demosaicing algorithm. I was also pleased to see that the EXIF info in the resulting image correctly identifies the camera as the S1RM2, which results from editing only the first instance of the camera name.

Also, given that Capture One tethering played into the roll-out, it seems reasonable to expect support quickly, at least for Capture One. But, very good news that the file format seems unchanged.

 

[AlanC]

I downloaded a raw file from the S1rII (available at dpreview) and used a hex editor to rename the camera from S1RM2 to S5M2 (but only in the first location where it appears.) I then opened the modified raw file using RawTherapee, and it worked great.

I tried opening the DPReview samples using Affinity Photo 2 without any modification at all and, to my surprise, they opened successfully with the correct camera name in the metadata. The colours are distinctly off, cold and drab, and the lens corrections aren't being applied, but at least there shouldn't be a long delay thanks to the need for third parties to decode a new file format as there was for the S5ii.

I'm seriously tempted to place a pre-order but I really want to see some more samples from the camera before I commit myself.