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Lumix 28–200mm f/4–7.1 Sample Images

Example of my copy, by hand. I tried to be exactly in even distance of the wall, but this is not a scientific test.

But all by all, I'm happy with my copy35mm F4.5 example.jpg
 
Nevyn72 said:
Example of my copy, by hand. I tried to be exactly in even distance of the wall, but this is not a scientific test.

But all by all, I'm happy with my copyView attachment 13962
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Argh resizing on my phone removes de lens info:
35mm F4.5
 
Thank you. I try to establish a baseline of what could be acceptable. Or what I can tolerate... cause I know I should not expect the performance of the 24-60 or 16-35 (which both are already very good on 24mp wide open). But in that sense I don't know exactly what to expect. My expectations are that the images are usable wide-open and not as obvious soft as my previous sample, and at F8 it should have about the same performance as the 24-105 at their overlapping range.

Or should I lower my expectations?
 
RuleOfThirds said:
Thank you. I try to establish a baseline of what could be acceptable. Or what I can tolerate... cause I know I should not expect the performance of the 24-60 or 16-35 (which both are already very good on 24mp wide open). But in that sense I don't know exactly what to expect. My expectations are that the images are usable wide-open and not as obvious soft as my previous sample, and at F8 it should have about the same performance as the 24-105 at their overlapping range.

Or should I lower my expectations?
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You should expect nice pictures, and no visible defects in real photos. How often do we shoot a brick wall in RL situations?

This vacation we where 'just' in Limburg, and I did snap some pictures with the lens, they are in the Juli thread. Excellent pictures? No, but Venlo isn't that photogenic and also my wife (and our dog) didn't want to wait all the time.

I do notice: in city I mostly shoot with the 28-200mm, in the country more often with the 16-28mm. But might be different for you.
 
Except for your Amsterdam pictures :) they were with the 16-28. I do like the 16-35 in cities as well.. In the city you take pictures of a LOT of brick walls, or other flat texture with detail all over the place. So in the sense of your last posted picture here, I have maybe taken like 10 of them in my whole life. But I don't want to end up with ruined pictures which I had with a Fuji 18-135 in Granada. More or less same problem as the pictures I shared earlier with the 28-200. At infinity at max zoom...

This is what I call unusable.... on the camera screen the pictures looked fine. And all other pictures with the lens where fine, except max zoom at infinity, there the problems where exaggerated. And it was my secondary lens as well, so nothing else was ruined.

fuji_18-135_granada.jpg
This is NOT the LUMIX 28-200, but a sample of the Fuji XF18-135 @135 F8, infinity focussedDSCF3989.jpg
  • FUJIFILM - X-S10
  • XF18-135mmF3.5-5.6R LM OIS WR
  • 135.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/400 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 160
 
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This sample is much, much better. And quite strong at the tele end. Happy to try to use this. 35 is still the worst setting, but ok at f71.
Especially in non-flat surfaces
PANA5291.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 35.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/60 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 200
PANA5297.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 200.0 mm
  • ƒ/7.1
  • 1/200 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 800
PANA5299.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 200.0 mm
  • ƒ/7.1
  • 1/200 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 320
 
One more question. With this lens attached I see some strange behaviour, or did I mess up something ? With this lens attached, Aperture priority + auto iso look like it is keeping the shutter speed at 1/250 and keeps upping the iso until 6400 (max I have set I guess) and only then starts lowering the shutter speed. I only saw it with this lens attached. Some weird software bug ?

Anyway some more around the house... PANA5320.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 122.0 mm
  • ƒ/6.1
  • 1/400 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 800
PANA5317.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 200.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/25 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • 0.7
  • ISO 400
PANA5313.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 200.0 mm
  • ƒ/11
  • 1/30 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 800
 
35/4.5 seems ok to me... only the car needs to be cleaned :) it was either this or a brick wall :).. the wall was nice too.
Car is only secondary and already 15 years old. 160.000+ and never ever issues. runs like a clock. full efficient.... my other car is a much newer Toyota Corolla Touring Sports hybrid (no plug-in) with 184 bhp.
PANA5322.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 35.0 mm
  • ƒ/4.5
  • 1/400 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 400
 
RuleOfThirds said:
One more question. With this lens attached I see some strange behaviour, or did I mess up something ? With this lens attached, Aperture priority + auto iso look like it is keeping the shutter speed at 1/250 and keeps upping the iso until 6400 (max I have set I guess) and only then starts lowering the shutter speed. I only saw it with this lens attached. Some weird software bug ?
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As far as I know I don't have this issue...

But I do understand the 24-105 F4 what you bought from me will again get a new owner?
 
Nevyn72 said:
As far as I know I don't have this issue...

But I do understand the 24-105 F4 what you bought from me will again get a new owner?
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I guess it will have to go. I have too many lenses already. But I still have time to think things over. Maybe I don’t like photography but just like to collect black round can shaped stuff with glass in it. No seriously, I love the 24-105, but it’s too big to bring along as secondary lens for just in case. So I evaluate this lens for a few weeks and decide.

But as only lens on a day trip, that 24-105 is damn good. Nice range, good sharpness and rendering. Amazing OIS.
 
RuleOfThirds said:
One more question. With this lens attached I see some strange behaviour, or did I mess up something ? With this lens attached, Aperture priority + auto iso look like it is keeping the shutter speed at 1/250 and keeps upping the iso until 6400 (max I have set I guess) and only then starts lowering the shutter speed. I only saw it with this lens attached. Some weird software bug ?
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I think this is normal behaviour.

In Aperture priority mode and auto ISO set, the camera will push the ISO up if there is insufficient exposure for the selected aperture for the scene. After hitting the upper ISO limit (default is 6400 but can be changed) the camera will begin to lower the shutter speed to maintain exposure.

You can set a minimum shutter speed too, but the camera will override this if you hit the upper ISO limit. The custom setting I use for moving trains is Aperture priority mode, F8, minimum shutter speed of 1/800s and auto ISO with an upper limit of 12800. This higher ISO limit ensures that my shutter speed does not get overridden.
 
I thought previously that it lowered to a preset lowest shutter speed like 1/30 and then would start upping iso. Now it keeps it 1/250 until it can’t hold that shutter speed. So one is prioritizing iso, the other method shutter speed. But maybe I didn’t notice it before. Or maybe somewhere i changed something.
 
RuleOfThirds said:
I thought previously that it lowered to a preset lowest shutter speed like 1/30 and then would start upping iso. Now it keeps it 1/250 until it can’t hold that shutter speed. So one is prioritizing iso, the other method shutter speed. But maybe I didn’t notice it before. Or maybe somewhere i changed something.
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Maybe check if you have set a minimum shutter speed set. The manual for this feature says that the default is AUTO in which case the camera automatically sets the minimum shutter speed, but it doesn't say what that is.
 
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