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Latest "that system has it so why don't we?" thread

Jonathan-Mac said:
I've never seen a new one for anything like that price.
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Panasonic bundled the 50/1.8 as free for sometime .Or as €200 add-on. If I remember with the introduction of the S5? I miself got 300€ cashback on the 70-300 and 100€ on the 35 and , 300 on the s5ii kit with the 20-60 end of 2023.
 
I got my S5 in a kit with both the 50/1.8 and 20-60mm with a €250 cashback and if I take €1500 as the body price (which is was at the time) then each lens cost me €125.

Which is all fine but I'm talking brand new on it's own.
 
Brand new on it’s own, without body at least but with cashback could be 250€
 
I bought mine as an unused white-box copy split from a kit for £225.
 
I'm just going to reinforce my personal desire for more attention to the S-Pro line:

- Some sort of fast, UWA zoom - starting at 12 or 14mm, F2.8. Something to compete with the Sigma 14-24 DG DN Art. I'd personally prefer a 14-24.
- Second-generation versions of the 24-70 F2.8 & 70-200 F2.8. The current lenses are known to be spectacular, but they are heavy - very heavy. And thus not competitive with the latest from Canon, Sony, etc. And no, those lighter competitive lenses don't seem to give up anything from an IQ perspective, but they are pricey. And the new Sigma 70-200 is quite good, but it's both heavier and less resolving than Sony's latest. So, the Sigma is a great lower price option, but right now L-mount doesn't have an answer for the very best 70-200s out there on the market.

For those that say "Why not use Sigma?" My main reason is that the direction of the focus barrel is the opposite of Panasonic's, and I'm a creature of habit. I want to go either all-Panasonic for my zooms, or all-Sigma. And right now I'd rather go Panasonic for zooms, for various reasons, with the main reason being the excellent 24-105 F4. There is nothing else like it in L-mount, and I build my zoom/hiking kit around it. And, somewhat ironically (for me), the 28-200. Again, there is nothing like it. So, I'm married to those two zooms, and I want the rest of my zoom barrels to twist the same direction.

I sincerely hope that with the new S1RII coming out, Panasonic tasks it's lens team to refreshing the S-Pro zooms. We have a great selection of competitive light/compact zooms and primes in L-mount right now. So let's see those new flagship zooms!

And yeah, a few more S-Pro prime would be great, although there I don't have as much a problem going Sigma there. In fact, with my sub-genre of astro, I think Sigma is hitting it out of the park with their current primes.
 
Today my eye got the full frame Tamron 17-50/4, an excellent lens, only for Sony. I really like my 16-35, but that range is really compelling, and even more versatile to me in a city. And it is only 460gram as well, so that could be very nice on a Sony A7c ii, or the Sony 24-50/2.8, wich is only 440gram

I think such options are missing from l-mount
 
RuleOfThirds said:
Today my eye got the full frame Tamron 17-50/4, an excellent lens, only for Sony. I really like my 16-35, but that range is really compelling, and even more versatile to me in a city. And it is only 460gram as well, so that could be very nice on a Sony A7c ii, or the Sony 24-50/2.8, wich is only 440gram

I think such options are missing from l-mount
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Yes, that's an intriguing lens and one which would be nice to have on L-mount. The past few years has seen a real broadening of the options for ultra-wide to normal-ish zooms. It used to be that if you wanted an ultra-wide zoom then it wouldn't go above 35mm, then 40mm, then 60mm, 70mm.....

It's good to see that, money and system aside, we have more options to decide on just how ultra-wide we want, how long the zoom goes, the maximum aperture etc. In L-mount I imagine our only hope would be for Sigma to bring out their own version. It's far too adventurous for Panasonic and too complex (for now) for the Chinese brands, who are so far sticking to fast primes.
 
RuleOfThirds said:
Today my eye got the full frame Tamron 17-50/4,
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I wanted to take the A7P2 for the former, but later refused. It's not so good at the long end + dimensions, but without the "trunk", it's true that I generally treat zoom lenses spatially....)
 
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