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I must be mad, I’ve just bought another S1R

pdk42

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I bought an S1R earlier this year but sold it again a couple months later. My main reasons were size and weight. But looking back at some images from it, I can see that it’s got some nicer tonality than the S5; and I definitely miss the EVF and the dual tilt screen.

So I’ve just picked up a well used one from Park Cameras (137k clicks) for a great price. I think it’ll see me through to the S1ii launch.
 
hahaha, welcome back, Paul!!

I have always thought that the S1R is the most underrated camera in history, even though in DXOMark the sensor was for a long time one of the best after the Leica M11 sensor (with triple resolution technology).

https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/
 
Hey Paul,

good to hear that you appreciate the advantages of the S1R so much. I would have thought that Panasonic will bring a successor of the S1R this year for the Christmas business on the market, but they obviously did not do it. Who knows why...

Who knows what their plans are for 2024. I have many wishes regarding new cameras for both MFT and L-Mount. Like a rangefinder style body with 24MP and one with around 40-60MP. I am still young, I can still dream...
 
Hey Paul,

good to hear that you appreciate the advantages of the S1R so much. I would have thought that Panasonic will bring a successor of the S1R this year for the Christmas business on the market, but they obviously did not do it. Who knows why...

Who knows what their plans are for 2024. I have many wishes regarding new cameras for both MFT and L-Mount. Like a rangefinder style body with 24MP and one with around 40-60MP. I am still young, I can still dream...
I’m pretty sure the S1 replacement will arrive next year. Maybe spring, but perhaps later if they decide to push the Leica SL3 first. It’ll have the 60 Mp sensor found in the Q3. I find it hard to imagine there being any other viable option.

As to a rangefinder style - I really doubt it. I hope I’m wrong, but I think Panasonic have given up on that format. There’s no replacement for the GX9 yet, and that’s now over 5 years old. If there’s any rangefinder style camera in the works it will be a GX9ii rather than something in L Mount.
 
CES is coming up soon, so maybe something will be announced there.
 
and I definitely miss the EVF and the dual tilt screen.
I never owned a S1R, but I had a S1 when they first came out, and a S1H. Both really good camras, but I never liked the size and weight. I had a couple of long trips where my grandson packed around the S1H for me, plus a heavy tripod. I don't think he has forgiven me for that. The S5 series has shown Panasonic cameras don't need to be that large, and I do hope the upcoming high resolution S-whatever will be in a package much closer to the S5. In the interim congratulations on the S1R, and looking to see some great shots from it.
 
Paul Congrats on your new camera!
S1R is still a great camera especially price is so cheap these days.
Better get it now than wait for that illusive S1RII, S1II, S5R or whatever camera that every second month some "leaks" say is going to be released next month Z04 Schlaumeier
 
Seems like a beautiful camera! If I ever got into studio stuff, I'd love to own one and pair it with an old zeiss otus 85mm - one can dream at least.
 
Paul Congrats on your new camera!
S1R is still a great camera especially price is so cheap these days.
Better get it now than wait for that illusive S1RII, S1II, S5R or whatever camera that every second month some "leaks" say is going to be released next month Z04 Schlaumeier

I totally agree. History has shown with every manufacturer/brand, that we can not calculate anymore as before when which model will come out.

If the second hand prices of the S1R drop even more over the next 12 months, even me will buy an S1R and this sais a lot, because I hate big and heavy cameras Z04 Menno

But please Sigma, bring out a 28/2.0 DG DN i-series lens beforehand. My budget is very limited in 2024... Z04 Pri
 
Paul Congrats on your new camera!
S1R is still a great camera especially price is so cheap these days.
Better get it now than wait for that illusive S1RII, S1II, S5R or whatever camera that every second month some "leaks" say is going to be released next month Z04 Schlaumeier
Yes Richard, I can see your point. No one really knows for sure what Panasonic will do. It could be next month, or it could be 2025. I'm persuaded to think it'll be either spring, or maybe autumn if spring sees the Leica SL3 first. Can't see Panasonic launching an S!ii concurrent with a new Leica SL3.

But in the meantime I'll just enjoy the S1R. That's assuming it's in decent condition though - the listing said "Showing only minor signs of use/wear" (and the photos of it did look very clean), but it has got 137k clicks on it. I'm wondering how anyone can put 137k clicks on a camera and leave only minor signs of use/wear. Maybe it's done a lot of timelapse shooting? Dunno. Guess I'll find out in a day or so.
 
I totally agree. History has shown with every manufacturer/brand, that we can not calculate anymore as before when which model will come out.

If the second hand prices of the S1R drop even more over the next 12 months, even me will buy an S1R and this sais a lot, because I hate big and heavy cameras Z04 Menno

But please Sigma, bring out a 28/2.0 DG DN i-series lens beforehand. My budget is very limited in 2024... Z04 Pri
I would also love to see a 28mm, Sigma or Panasonic
But a small and light 28-200 would also be awesome. And that one is on the roadmap (for a long time now?)
 
So I’ve got a pristine S1R - not a mark on it. It basically looks new. It even fired up with the prompts to set up the region and date/time. Everything works perfectly. Even the battery and charger are free of scuffs and scratches.

Yet, it shows 76k power cycles and 177k shutter actuations. Feeling confused…
 
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Yet, it shows 76k power cycles and 177k shutter actuations. Feeling confused…

Mechanical shutter or electronic shutter?
 
So I’ve got a pristine S1R - not a mark on it. It basically looks new. It even fired up with the prompts to set up the region and date/time. Everything works perfectly. Even the battery and charger are free of scuffs and scratches.

Yet, it shows 76k power cycles and 177k shutter actuations. Feeling confused…

Starting up with the date and time prompts likely just means it hadn't been used for long enough that the internal clock battery discharged.

And I could believe 177K shutter actuations if the previous owner used continuous mode a lot, but 76K power cycles? Even if the camera was one of the first in the UK, and the previous owner had just sold it, they'd have needed to do something like 56 power cycles a day, every day, to achieve that... o_O
 
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Mechanical shutter or electronic shutter?
I did a bit of testing and it seems that Panasonic cameras only count mechanical shutter activations. So, it's a real 137k on the mechanical shutter.

I used the pixel mapping function to take a look at the shutter blades (they stay closed for several seconds during the cycle). There's no hint of any scratching.
 
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