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Will sigma complete the trinity?, and will it be worth it.

R-J Sunday

R-J Sunday

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Last week I was thinking about what lenses would be nice save for, and I was thinking... would a sigma trinity be worth it ?
If we can expect a sigma 70-200 2.8 for the l mount once, it will complete the sigma 16-28 and the 28-70 2.8.
The total budget should be expected around the 3k in euro for a 2.8 trinity which sounds pretty good. (still a lot money, but spread over 2/3 years :))

any thoughts or advice?

I am mainly in to photography btw

greets
 
I am sure they will bring an F2.8 telezoom.

See also the rumor about a Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG DN Patent:

sonyaddict.com

Sigma 50-140mm F/2.8 DC DN and Sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 DG DN Patents Found - Sony Addict

overview [Publication number] P2023090116 [Release date] 2023-06-29 [Title of Invention] Imaging Optical System [Application date] 2021-12-17 [Applicant] [Identification number] 000131326 [Name] Sigma Corporation Kind Code: A1 A compact image forming optical system having a small open F value...
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I think it would be a good move for them, a 70-200/2.8 a lot cheaper than the Lumix would be a big seller. Personally I'd rather see a 135/2.8 or a 70-200 f/4 as they'd be more suitable for me, but I don't think they'd sell as well as an f/2.8.
 
Did anyone else see this? Hoping this happens soon now... like the sound of the 50-140 also.
 

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The 50-140mm is APS-C.

If every patented lens actually went into production then there would be far more lenses out there...
 
For me, I'd much prefer a 70-200 f4 than a 70-200 f2.8. But ahead of both of these I'd like a 24-200 f5.6-f6.3. So long as it was decent at f8, that single lens would cover most of my landscape needs.
 
Jayneboo said:
Not sure there would be much improvement over the Pan 70-300 for me if they just bought the f/4 version.
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It is only regarding size and weight. I have no complaints regarding IQ of the Lumix 70-300.
 
dirk said:
It is only regarding size and weight. I have no complaints regarding IQ of the Lumix 70-300.
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Would a 70-200 f4 really be much smaller than a 70-300 f5.6? Seems likely they would be very similar unless they sacrificed some part of design or build.
 
Panny's 70-200 F4 is 1 kilo. Sony's is 800 grams; Canon, 700. So yes, there is opportunity here for Sigma.

Likewise, the Tamron Z-mount 70-300 is 550 grams, while the Panny is 800. So, another opportunity, but I don't know how the Tamron's IQ compares.
 
GeorgeHudetz said:
Panny's 70-200 F4 is 1 kilo. Sony's is 800 grams; Canon, 700. So yes, there is opportunity here for Sigma.

Likewise, the Tamron Z-mount 70-300 is 550 grams, while the Panny is 800. So, another opportunity, but I don't know how the Tamron's IQ compares.
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The Lumix being a half macro and being video optimized with stabilization I'm sure contributes to the larger 70-300. The Tamron is also known for much of the frame being soft before 100mm or so.
 
inspiredtimothy said:
Would a 70-200 f4 really be much smaller than a 70-300 f5.6? Seems likely they would be very similar unless they sacrificed some part of design or build.
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That depends what kind of design they would apply, what kind of image quality they want to achieve and how many algorythms they want to apply to get a better image quality without real optical correction. I am sure that if Sigma would launch an i-series tele zoom, that this would be a smaller and lighter tele zoom than what is currently available for L-Mount.

I might even not need F4.0. Look at Fuji's old XC 50-230/5.6-6.7 (and that is for APS-C). Why not a 70-200/5.6 or 5.6-6.7? I do not need the wide aperture with a tele zoom. I need the compression and reach. This is the only reason why I am interested in a tele zoom. Compression and reach.

This is what no other lens with a shorter FL can give me. If I want to have super shallow bokeh, I can grab a 90/2.8 or 85/1.8 or 1.4
 
dirk said:
That depends what kind of design they would apply, what kind of image quality they want to achieve and how many algorythms they want to apply to get a better image quality without real optical correction. I am sure that if Sigma would launch an i-series tele zoom, that this would be a smaller and lighter tele zoom than what is currently available for L-Mount.

I might even not need F4.0. Look at Fuji's old XC 50-230/5.6-6.7 (and that is for APS-C). Why not a 70-200/5.6 or 5.6-6.7? I do not need the wide aperture with a tele zoom. I need the compression and reach. This is the only reason why I am interested in a tele zoom. Compression and reach.

This is what no other lens with a shorter FL can give me. If I want to have super shallow bokeh, I can grab a 90/2.8 or 85/1.8 or 1.4
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I think if all I wanted was what you are looking for I'd be picking up a cheap canon ef-s 55-250 (STM version) and using it with Sigma's MC-21 or any other adaptor.
 
Jayneboo said:
I think if all I wanted was what you are looking for I'd be picking up a cheap canon ef-s 55-250 (STM version) and using it with Sigma's MC-21 or any other adaptor.
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I would prefer a native L-Mount lens. The adapter will make a Canon lens only bigger and heavier without adding a benefit in image quality. There is a need for such a tele zoom and I am sure Sigma will offer that sooner or later.

Sigma showed already in the past, that they are very good in finding niches in a lens line of the L-Mount. Both for lenses and for bodies (fp/fp L). I am just not patient enough. Z04 Flucht

But at the end of the day, without pressure of the costumers, no brand would see the need of improving something Teufel Grinsend Schwanz
 
I friend of mine just bought the 70-180/2.8 Z for his Nikon. Even if this lens is based on the Tamron design, the body feels quite different. But in general it looks like to be a great lens, very high picture quality, quite lightweight and small. But with 2.8!
For me such a design seems more interesting then a f/4 zoom of comparable size and weight. The missing 20mm at the long end is not so much, but stable 2.8 seems more useful to me.
 
RBecker said:
I friend of mine just bought the 70-180/2.8 Z for his Nikon. Even if this lens is based on the Tamron design, the body feels quite different. But in general it looks like to be a great lens, very high picture quality, quite lightweight and small. But with 2.8!
For me such a design seems more interesting then a f/4 zoom of comparable size and weight. The missing 20mm at the long end is not so much, but stable 2.8 seems more useful to me.
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Yes, I'd like to see that lens for the L mount but I don't think there's any chance of Tamron joining the mount. Maybe Sigma could bring something out that's very similar.
 
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