What is Lumix working on?

[Miki]

Ok, Lumix, can you please make one like this?



But with IBIS, please...

Yes, please ... with fixed 40mm F2 Pana-Leica lens, 24MP sensor, tilt screen, higher resolution, eye-glass friendly EVF, and no IBIS!
No point to have a IBIS in such a small package.
Removable lens makes sense, if one wants to clean sensor, or to put on another small prime lens, or pancake.

 

[Markuswelder]

Yes, please ... with fixed 40mm F2 Pana-Leica lens, 24MP sensor, tilt screen, higher resolution, eye-glass friendly EVF, and no IBIS!
No point to have a IBIS in such a small package.
Removable lens makes sense, if one wants to clean sensor, or to put on another small prime lens, or pancake.

I really like 40mm. I use the Canon EF 40mm f2.8 pancake on an adaptor with my S5 quite a bit. But, as a fixed lens camera? I think that's a little bit tight, and may potentially scare off a large number of prospective purchasers. Somewhere between 30-35mm might possibly appeal more. Especially if the S1RII sensor was used, giving a bit of crop wiggle room

 

[Miki]

Somewhere between 30-35mm might possibly appeal more.

Commercially, yes. These days, the most people don't realize, that 40mm is the sweetest FL of all.
It captures natural to an eye compression. It feels naturally appealing
In the past, manufactures used to make compacts with 40mm.
For me, 40mm in the best all around to take everywhere FL.
35mm is too wide, and 50mm is too tight.
I seldom crop images. As I don't like the look of cropped images.
It doesn't hurt much to just crop a little.
I pay a lot of attention to proper framing.

Heavy cropping comes handy in sports, and wildlife.
I can understand that.
I don't do those.

If, standard zoom feels too big, and heavy to carry around all day ... the 40mm is the best alternative.
Fujifilm knows that. That's why they don't want to make a good one. They've came out with just one lousy, sub-standard XF 28mm/2.8 pancake for crop sensor.

 

[pdk42]

Yes, please ... with fixed 40mm F2 Pana-Leica lens, 24MP sensor, tilt screen, higher resolution, eye-glass friendly EVF, and no IBIS!
No point to have a IBIS in such a small package.
Removable lens makes sense, if one wants to clean sensor, or to put on another small prime lens, or pancake.

IBIS is a game changer for both photography and videography. Why omit it? The S9 shows it needn’t make the camera too big.

 

[Quentinquirelino]

Yes, please ... with fixed 40mm F2 Pana-Leica lens, 24MP sensor, tilt screen, higher resolution, eye-glass friendly EVF, and no IBIS!
No point to have a IBIS in such a small package.
Removable lens makes sense, if one wants to clean sensor, or to put on another small prime lens, or pancake.

I don't think Panasonic will make a competition to the Leica Q3 and Q3 43. As far I know Panasonic is holding the patents on the lens of both and the Qs has been rumored to be essentially Panasonic hardware with Leica software and finishing, since the OG Q. The Qs are selling pretty good, even with Leica price tag and I think Panasonic is getting it's share from the sales.

But I could assume that Leica could release a 24 Mpix version of it with the well known sensor from the S5II, SL3-S and S1IIE. If the market is big enough.

Only if the market is becoming really big, and competitors like Sony hugely undercut the Leica prices, than it could be possible that Panasonic would enter the market. But I don't think that will be the case. The RX1riii isn't that much cheaper and it's not technically advanced compared to the Q3.

 

[Markuswelder]

Commercially, yes. These days, the most people don't realize, that 40mm is the sweetest FL of all.

Yeah, but Panasonic has shown in the past, they're really only interested in making stuff that's commercially viable. If it's not, it disappears from their product line. In saying that, they have thrown out the odd outlier in the past, just to test/gauge the market. The GX8 springs to mind. But it was not to be repeated, just cheaper, dumbed down versions, because that's all the market was willing to pay.

 

[Miki]

IBIS is a game changer for both photography and videography. Why omit it? The S9 shows it needn’t make the camera too big.

S9 has no EVF. That's why it's not that big.
With EVF, and no IBIS, a cam would be smaller, and lighter.

 

[pdk42]

S9 has no EVF. That's why it's not that big.
With EVF, and no IBIS, a cam would be smaller, and lighter.

If such a camera was launched (no IBIS) then I wouldn't buy it. Sony's A7C shows it's possible to have both IBIS & EVF in a small package.