R-J Sunday
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Good review, but as always the nitpicking on autofocus. How did al these people photograph before the a7III was on the market?
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Good review, but as always the nitpicking on autofocus. How did al these people photograph before the a7III was on the market?
Nevyn72
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I found it interesting to hear that after a firmware update all the AF problems where gone (as far as she could see).
CharlesH
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As filmmakers we're not usually concerned about rolling shutter. A snap pan is so fast you don't really see what is going past. And with a tracking pan the viewer is focused on what is being tracked, which won't show a rolling shutter effect, versus the background which may show some effect.
I think the concern discussed on this forum was not about filmmaking but about photos; would there be some weird effect when photographing birds in flight or running animals or something. But it is much the same as with video, these are typically panning shots where the subject is essentially not moving across the frame, it is the background that is moving and usually out of focus. Our non-global shutter cameras have always had rolling shutters, but we're been able to get good action pictures of birds and animals.
Yes, I've said that about Sony color, and my A1 in particular. I packed it up for sale yesterday, and am looking forward to the S1R ii.
Yes, correct. That's mostly what I've been wondering about, anyway.
Not necessarily true; sometimes the bird or whatever is traveling across the frame. Or maybe I am photographing two Bull Elk who are about to lock horns and are jumping towards each other, reared up on their hind legs, and I'm capturing those brief moments just before the make contact and thus I am not panning. Or maybe a coiled snake striking at a mouse.
It can also be both panning and subject motion, of course.
Having said all that, this test does make me more comfortable, for sure.
And: thanks Richard! Your test does illustrate that the S1RII can do quite well in such situations. While I can see slight differences in some situations if I pause, or slow down the frame, that hardly matters. Watching the woman posting the note on the tree was very telling: she was close to the camera and thus moving quite quickly (I think she was in the fame for about 1 second) and even if I paused the frame she looked natural. The only times I could see slight effects were on the vertical walls of the red & white house while you were following the car,s but, again, it was slight and as Charles said the viewer doesn't really focus on that anyway.
So thanks again. Super helpful.
I guess the only thing that I am left wondering about is: For 40 fps stills shooting, which of those video modes is closest to what one would experience when shooting stills with ES?
Ideally, a similar pair of tests could be done using 40 fps stills; however, if we know that the readout speed of one of those video modes is close to or the same as the readout speed for ES stills, then that would be good enough (for me).
And please, Richard, I'm not TRYING to antagonize you. I promise.
Ideally, a similar pair of tests could be done using 40 fps stills; however, if we know that the readout speed of one of those video modes is close to or the same as the readout speed for ES stills, then that would be good enough (for me).
And please, Richard, I'm not TRYING to antagonize you. I promise.
Quentinquirelino
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For stills, you could search for experiencees with the Canon R5, R6, R6II or Z6III. They have very similar read out speeds compared to the S1RII. Especially with the R5, you will find a ton off wildlife photos shot with ES. It's still a popular wildlife camera.
Thanks, I'll do that.
Although I'm fairly certain at this point that for me, it no longer matters. I'm not going to switch to Nikon to get that super fast electronic shutter, nor am I going to switch to Sony to get that 60 MP sensor. I've just got too much invested in L-mount to make either of those options worthwhile. And the SL3 is too expensive.
So while I still have a bone to pick with Panasonic for not making the S1RII that is perfect for me, (LOL) it is what it is and hopefully they made a well-informed choice from a market standpoint.
Having said all that, I'd still love to see Richard's test repeated for 40 fps stills, although I'll be able to do that myself soon enough.
Richard Wong
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I guess the only thing that I am left wondering about is: For 40 fps stills shooting, which of those video modes is closest to what one would experience when shooting stills with ES?
Ideally, a similar pair of tests could be done using 40 fps stills; however, if we know that the readout speed of one of those video modes is close to or the same as the readout speed for ES stills, then that would be good enough (for me).
And please, Richard, I'm not TRYING to antagonize you. I promise.
haha George, Panasonic hasn't chased me to return the S1RII yet so I still have the camera. I can try answer questions / check things for you guys.
But i probably won't make any more S1RII videos, not for a while.
It's just I spent all my spare time over the last month or so working on the S1RII content. I really enjoyed that, but I do feel I need a break now . I also have a few long-overdue reviews I need to work on. So I will catch up on my backlog first.
But I do have a lot of L-mount videos already scheduled over the next few months!
No problem, we understand that you have to concentrate now on the reviews of the Lumix GX9ii and Lumix S9e (e for EVF)....
Travis Butler
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Heh. Well, your time is very helpful and appreciated! Tempted to send BBQ sauce if you had a good drop box; if you’re ever in Kansas City, dinner is on me.
Out of curiosity, why do you do videos instead of written reviews? (If you do have a written review site, my apologies; I couldn’t find it.) it sounds like they take a lot of energy to produce.
(I admit, from my own point of view, I prefer written reviews; I can read much faster than most presenters go, I have better retention, it’s easier to repeat a section or find a particular passage later, etc.)