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Panasonic Lumix S 18mm F1.8

RuleOfThirds said:
I like the less subject distorted images personally the most. But the shallow depth pictures are also beautiful.
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Yeah, it's all just personal preference. I love the exaggerated curves and perspective that ultrawide can produce, and deliberately chase it. A Tilt & Shift holds zero appeal to me lol.
 
Markuswelder said:
A Tilt & Shift holds zero appeal to me lol.
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I know, but I would like to try one . I know that the Leica Q3 has even a finder especially designed to help with framing to get undistorted pictures.
 
ermesjo said:
The 18 is tack sharp as the 14-28?
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Like I wrote, I'm not the person for doing lens comparison testing. However, today the Wife & I were out and about running errands ready for our trip, and we drove past this. I thought I'd previously shot it with the 14-28mm, as it turned out I had used the Lumix 20-60mm. Which is no slouch. Pretty damn sharp stopped down to my eye to be honest. Anyway, to the annoyance of the Wife, I stopped and shot a couple of frames. Yeah yeah yeah, I know, it's a totally flawed test if you want scientifically controlled etc. Different day, different light, slightly different focal length and I moved a bit to try and match the framing -from memory, and so on. But it is what it is, real world shooting. See what you think. If you click on them it'll take you to Flickr and they're viewable at full resolution there. That's as far as I'm going to go with tests.
54404392771_e318bd7021_h.jpg250125-P1025032 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

54404625343_4693b6dc8f_h.jpg250323-P1025937 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

I did do a couple of really really boring shots the other day with the 14-28mm & 18mm both at F4.5, I can't pick any difference. Any difference there might be is just due to slightly different focus points, to me they're indistinguishable. But the 18mm opens right up to 1.8, the 14-28mm is stuck at F4.5 at that focal length. I think. They're all good. No, make that excellent.
 
Anyway, back to regular programming :) Also while we were out and about, much to the annoyance of the Wife, again, I spotted this :) Which required another stop. Didn't notice the owners walk into the frame on the first shot, the second rear shot was actually as they drove off. I'd have liked to have gotten a few more shots from the front etc, that's life :) Still just experimenting with aperture, getting a nicely softened background but with more of the car in focus. I'll work it out eventually. The thing I like about Ultrawide is you can squeeze in between parked cars or quite tight spaces, and still get the whole car in the shot. If you crouch/kneel down at the right height and get your angles right, you can use the subject itself to block out lots of distracting background objects too. Quite good fun, opportunistic shooting at its best. Which I really enjoy, and makes up an awful lot of my shooting. Having a nice compact yet high quality little kit makes it so much more enjoyable, my S5 goes nearly everywhere with me.
54404643589_6c697e4dbd_h.jpg250323-P1025945 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

54404467921_5f587e006e_h.jpg250323-P1025946 by Markus Welder, on Flickr
 
Markuswelder said:
Like I wrote, I'm not the person for doing lens comparison testing. However, today the Wife & I were out and about running errands ready for our trip, and we drove past this. I thought I'd previously shot it with the 14-28mm, as it turned out I had used the Lumix 20-60mm. Which is no slouch. Pretty damn sharp stopped down to my eye to be honest. Anyway, to the annoyance of the Wife, I stopped and shot a couple of frames. Yeah yeah yeah, I know, it's a totally flawed test if you want scientifically controlled etc. Different day, different light, slightly different focal length and I moved a bit to try and match the framing -from memory, and so on. But it is what it is, real world shooting. See what you think. If you click on them it'll take you to Flickr and they're viewable at full resolution there. That's as far as I'm going to go with tests.
View attachment 9791250125-P1025032 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

View attachment 9792250323-P1025937 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

I did do a couple of really really boring shots the other day with the 14-28mm & 18mm both at F4.5, I can't pick any difference. Any difference there might be is just due to slightly different focus points, to me they're indistinguishable. But the 18mm opens right up to 1.8, the 14-28mm is stuck at F4.5 at that focal length. I think. They're all good. No, make that excellent.
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The bottom one has nicer clouds :) very different white balance, but also more contrast, more definition, and better rendition, as you said, night and day difference because it was not at the same time with the same settings. Same picture, but apples and oranges comparison. Only you can tell which is right color wise, but I like the colours on the bottom one more. First one had full whack sun. 2nd one more sunsetting vibe. But first one is more dull or I don't know.
 
RuleOfThirds said:
The bottom one has nicer clouds :) very different white balance, but also more contrast, more definition, and better rendition, as you said, night and day difference because it was not at the same time with the same settings. Same picture, but apples and oranges comparison. Only you can tell which is right color wise, but I like the colours on the bottom one more. First one had full whack sun. 2nd one more sunsetting vibe. But first one is more dull or I don't know.
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Yeah, the 20-60 shot was taken around lunchtime from memory, the 18mm F1.8 was around 5pm in the afternoon. But I agree with you that the 18mm shot is a bit more contrasty. It's just got a little bit more bite to it. Sharpness across the frame is a wash to me. I'm liking the 18mm more and more the longer I shoot with it.
 
Like I wrote, I'm liking it more and more the more I shoot with it. I think it's a spectacular lens, giving that shallow DOF with a wide angle of view. Rocks my socks for sure, as it's a very distinctive look I think. Love it. SUre, not for everyone, but I shoot just for me :)
Anyway, the Chinese are coming. I'd buy one for sure if the Wife was a bit more favourably dispose to me riding them :)
54406555641_dbb1e5f109_h.jpg250324-P1025947 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

54405680032_683045ad0a_h.jpg250324-P1025952 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

54406735169_facc18321f_h.jpg250324-P1025948 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

54405680042_600c47c6dd_h.jpg250324-P1025951 by Markus Welder, on Flickr
 
Markuswelder said:
Like I wrote, I'm liking it more and more the more I shoot with it. I think it's a spectacular lens, giving that shallow DOF with a wide angle of view. Rocks my socks for sure, as it's a very distinctive look I think. Love it. SUre, not for everyone, but I shoot just for me :)
Anyway, the Chinese are coming. I'd buy one for sure if the Wife was a bit more favourably dispose to me riding them :)
View attachment 9814250324-P1025947 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

View attachment 9815250324-P1025952 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

View attachment 9816250324-P1025948 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

View attachment 9818250324-P1025951 by Markus Welder, on Flickr
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Markuswelder said:
Like I wrote, I'm liking it more and more the more I shoot with it. I think it's a spectacular lens, giving that shallow DOF with a wide angle of view. Rocks my socks for sure, as it's a very distinctive look I think. Love it. SUre, not for everyone, but I shoot just for me :)
Anyway, the Chinese are coming. I'd buy one for sure if the Wife was a bit more favourably dispose to me riding them :)
View attachment 9814250324-P1025947 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

View attachment 9815250324-P1025952 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

View attachment 9816250324-P1025948 by Markus Welder, on Flickr

View attachment 9818250324-P1025951 by Markus Welder, on Flickr
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Thank you for your on-site reports on the 18/1.8 I guess I will land on this prime instead of a zoom that demands more light. The aperture of 1.8 makes a difference in many situations compared to a zoom with 2.8 or 4.0. You have daylight examples here (the sun always shine in Australia?), but how will your L18/f1.8 fare after sunset?
 
ermesjo said:
Thank you for your on-site reports on the 18/1.8 I guess I will land on this prime instead of a zoom that demands more light. The aperture of 1.8 makes a difference in many situations compared to a zoom with 2.8 or 4.0. You have daylight examples here (the sun always shine in Australia?), but how will your L18/f1.8 fare after sunset?
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If I may interject, I spend a lot of my photographic time in dank dark churches and cathedrals where light is at a premium and flashes (and video lights) are banned. The 18mm is wonderful in this environment. An example from Garton in East Yorkshire may illustrate (but the effect is limited by the forum 1600 pixel/1MB limit).
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  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 18/F1.8
  • 18.0 mm
  • ƒ/1.8
  • 1/60 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • -0.3
  • ISO 640
 
ermesjo said:
Thank you for your on-site reports on the 18/1.8 I guess I will land on this prime instead of a zoom that demands more light. The aperture of 1.8 makes a difference in many situations compared to a zoom with 2.8 or 4.0. You have daylight examples here (the sun always shine in Australia?), but how will your L18/f1.8 fare after sunset?
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I'd imagine it would work just as well as any other F1.8 lens. As long as you're up to the task.
I only started playing around with the shallow DOF by accident when I saw the effects and how nice it looked when checking focus points, it just grew from there.
 
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