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Rumors Panasonic 24-60 f2.8 or f2.0

GeorgeHudetz said:
Dustin does seem to think that the 24-60 is missing that 3D pop that the 24-70 has. FF to about the 6 min mark.
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To understand and believe that statement I would need to see some pictures that show the difference in 3D pop. I really doubt such a difference exists, but it would be interesting if someone could demonstrate it.

Anyway, of the three Panasonic products introduced today the one most interesting to me is the 24-60mm lens. I am very impressed with the S1 II camera, but I don't need it right now. I have been looking for a good 24-70 2.8 for the S1R II, but 24-60 2.8 might do it. I had not thought about a smaller lens, so the possiblity is pretty attractive, especially considering using it with x2 HyZ. Certainly in good time I would like to see lot more pictures from the 24-60.
 
CharlesH said:
To understand and believe that statement I would need to see some pictures that show the difference in 3D pop. I really doubt such a difference exists, but it would be interesting if someone could demonstrate it.

Anyway, of the three Panasonic products introduced today the one most interesting to me is the 24-60mm lens. I am very impressed with the S1 II camera, but I don't need it right now. I have been looking for a good 24-70 2.8 for the S1R II, but 24-60 2.8 might do it. I had not thought about a smaller lens, so the possiblity is pretty attractive, especially considering using it with x2 HyZ. Certainly in good time I would like to see lot more pictures from the 24-60.
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The thing I'm interested in seeing, is if the S1 mkII has noticeably better AFC than the S1 E. With its faster sensor readout.
And if any theoretical differences are only applicable once you get up over say 15 FPS.
The reason I say that, is that my G9 had much better AFC in mechanical shutter mode, than in E shutter.

PS -I'm not in the market for any of the new releases personally. But it doesn't stop me from taking an interest.
 
It also looks like we're also being asked to subsidise the US market and their tariffs going by the recommended retail pricing announced. $900 US, $1900 AUD. Back to the bad old days, where buying overseas was the cheaper option most of the time.
Thanks Donald
 
Sorry S1ii, great but overkill, the S5ii suffices me. I use the G9 for 4k 120p, that is good enough for me.

So the 24-60 is for me the news of the day. Foto Koch has my preorder (expected "Anfang Juni")

Yes, I am a cheapo. And it is smaller and 200 EUR cheaper than the sigma. From the reviews, it is more than sharp enough for my use.

I think as soon as this lens is available in kits, the S5ii with it will be the best super-affordable FF entry that is fully featured.
 
CharlesH said:
To understand and believe that statement I would need to see some pictures that show the difference in 3D pop. I really doubt such a difference exists, but it would be interesting if someone could demonstrate it.
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3D pop is something a lot of people argue over because there are so many different ways of defining it. ^^;; Some people I've discussed with define it entirely as foreground/background separation - but while that's part of it, for me it's not sufficient. I define it in terms of my obsession with tonality - both with good microcontrast highlighting the sharp distinctions where surfaces meet and change (cracks, wrinkles), and with strong rendering of subtle tonal variations (defining the volume of an object as light plays across it, as with a sphere or a cloud). The PanLeica lenses I tried on M4/3 had it for me - the 15/1.7 and 12-60 - and so did the Lumix 20/1.7.

Others I tried that were supposed to have it - the Contax/Zeiss Vario-Sonnar 35-70/3.4, for example - didn't really do it for me. They had good microcontrast but (at least in the pics I took with it) not the tonal shading.
 
@dmvillano @Markuswelder

Please guys, no battles and no insults in the forum. We are a friendly forum with respect for each other's opinion.
 
I like what I'm seeing from the 24-60 2.8
The S Pro 24-70 has always been too big and heavy (and expensive) for me.
As always it's good to have choices.
 
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