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Rumors New Lumix camera(s) on May 13th?

That thought seems reasonable to me. So many times another factor should rule, such as color or texture - yet we go 200% in search of a few misaligned or off-focus pixels. And the atmosphere can make waves in any focal length under the right/wrong conditions.

If my eyes were sharp enough to see what so many users find disastrous, I'd probably never want a zoom lens again. I'd also get worse at tuning them out, so I shall keep my eyes as they are, give or take my reading glasses.
 
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This discussion with 36MP on the Nikon D800 was at a time, when most people shot still with a shutterspeed of 1/125s and the D800 had a mirror. This does not work, if you want to have really sharp images.

Nowadays we have mirrorless cameras witz sophisticated antishake systems and in most sports you use shutterspeeds between 1/1000s and 1/2000s. This is a totally different scenario.

I remember in the analog times tests which showed that you could get the best images with a Leica M6 and a Leica 90mm portrait lens for portrait (on film) with at least 1/500s. The differences were easy visible.
 
It seems that th S1II/S1IIe are around 80g lighter than the S1RII. Not a big difference, but I am paranoid with weight. Z04 Menno

EVF, tilting screen, fps and AF seems to be the same, which is more important for me. Let's see what kind of new infomation the event will bring ... Z04 Smiliebath
 
It seems that the S1II/S1IIe are around 80g lighter than the S1RII. Not a big difference, but I am paranoid with weight. Z04 Menno

EVF, tilting screen, fps and AF seems to be the same, which is more important for me. Let's see what kind of new information the event will bring ... Z04 Smiliebath

I wonder what would make them 80g lighter - I don't think the sensors have different weights.

As for the D800, those of us in Pentax-land were saying "Hello!! You need IBIS!!" :D
 
The S1RII doesn't have DR boost. It only has DR Expansion.
Off course it would be exciting if it would be in the S1RII, but it isn't.

Edit: I just realized my typo. I meant S1II, not S1Rii. Sorry.
So, in the DPR review of the S1II, they say that it's DR Boost is "not comparable" to what is in the GH7 (i.e., dual-path), although they don't yet know what it is. They do comment that there is a significant rolling shutter impact when it is engaged.

I do wonder how much of a difference one would see when going from "14+" to 15 stops of DR. I know that there was lots of thrashing about on the L-mount forum on DPR about the 11.08 stops of PDR (photons to photos) for the S1RII compared to the 11.63 of the Sony a7RV. However, when I downloaded very dark raws from both cameras from the DPR comparison tool, and pushed them 6 stops in Capture One, it was very difficult to spot a difference. So I'm not sure it's that important when both camera have such a high DR overall.

But perhaps in video it is more important?
 
So, in the DPR review of the S1II, they say that it's DR Boost is "not comparable" to what is in the GH7 (i.e., dual-path), although they don't yet know what it is. They do comment that there is a significant rolling shutter impact when it is engaged.
Judging by the rolling shutter measurements of Gerald Undone, it's very much comparable to what the GH7 does. It doubles the rolling shutter because it reads out twice. But in the S1II it seems to only work in video mode. But the S1II seems to have decent DR in photo mode never the less.
I do wonder how much of a difference one would see when going from "14+" to 15 stops of DR. I know that there was lots of thrashing about on the L-mount forum on DPR about the 11.08 stops of PDR (photons to photos) for the S1RII compared to the 11.63 of the Sony a7RV. However, when I downloaded very dark raws from both cameras from the DPR comparison tool, and pushed them 6 stops in Capture One, it was very difficult to spot a difference. So I'm not sure it's that important when both camera have such a high DR overall.

But perhaps in video it is more important?
Yes, I think it's more important in video.
 
there was lots of thrashing about on the L-mount forum on DPR about the 11.08 stops of PDR (photons to photos) for the S1RII compared to the 11.63 of the Sony a7RV. However, when I downloaded very dark raws from both cameras from the DPR comparison tool, and pushed them 6 stops in Capture One, it was very difficult to spot a difference. So I'm not sure it's that important when both camera have such a high DR overall.
I certainly don't miss any of those endless arguments on DPR! I always found that as soon as someone starts quoting PDR numbers and comparing to other brands (and usually brands/models that are in a totally different class) the conversation just goes down the toilet. It's all specifications and not photography or actual image results.
 
Speaking of Nikon Z, it seems that Lumix is releasing the Nikon Z6iii and Nikon Z5ii at the same time...

But, I still don't see any feature that could make photographers from Sony, Canon or Nikon change to L-Mount system...

And my hope for a RF style camera with evf, grip and mechanical shutter (a S9 foto centric) is starting to vanish...
Nikon ZIII offers only 10.5 of DR vs. 11.5 DR of ZII, and vs. Lumix's 14.5 of DR.
When, moving out from Fuji X-Trans, I was attracted to ZIII for better ergo, AF, and an excellent aid for manual adapted lenses.
But, 10.5 of DR has effectively put me off Nikon.
And, I want no more than 24MP sensor.
For comparison, my 10 y.o. X-Pro2 has 12,5 of DR, and that's not enough for extreme light conditions, like in Himalayas, i.e. ... not to mention, how extremely challenging is to edit X-Trans RAW files.
 
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I do wonder how much of a difference one would see when going from "14+" to 15 stops of DR. I know that there was lots of thrashing about on the L-mount forum on DPR about the 11.08 stops of PDR (photons to photos) for the S1RII compared to the 11.63 of the Sony a7RV. However, when I downloaded very dark raws from both cameras from the DPR comparison tool, and pushed them 6 stops in Capture One, it was very difficult to spot a difference. So I'm not sure it's that important when both camera have such a high DR overall.

But perhaps in video it is more important?
I mean Photons to Photos has been wrong in the past, too. He had very different numbers for the S1R (basically putting it at almost 12 PDR before eventually settling at something like 11.3 or so) and then ended up changing them with 0 transparency. Never explained what went wrong there. Coincidentally he had his (wrong) numbers up somewhen in March/April 2019 and in May 2019 DXO Mark (which, imo, is a site with a more transparent and reliable testing methodology) put out THEIR PDR numbers. And basically after that eventually Photons to Photos ended up changing the result on his site to match DXO Mark.
 
I mean Photons to Photos has been wrong in the past, too. He had very different numbers for the S1R (basically putting it at almost 12 PDR before eventually settling at something like 11.3 or so) and then ended up changing them with 0 transparency. Never explained what went wrong there. Coincidentally he had his (wrong) numbers up somewhen in March/April 2019 and in May 2019 DXO Mark (which, imo, is a site with a more transparent and reliable testing methodology) put out THEIR PDR numbers. And basically after that eventually Photons to Photos ended up changing the result on his site to match DXO Mark.
I've submitted a second set of data for the S1RII to Bill, but he hasn't added it to the website yet (at least, according to his change log). Will be interesting to see if the numbers change.

And, the PDR number is interesting. Bill says it's supposed to help you understand how much DR (which I read as noise) you will see in an 8x10 print when held at arm's length. He also says that higher PDR levels will be overkill for that test and you won't be able to tell the difference. Which makes sense - I'm assuming that an ISO 1600 shot when printed at 8x10 and held at arm's length would have no visible noise.

Anyway, what is of interest to me is how much noise I see when I squeeze all that DR into something with much less DR, like a 10-bit panel or a 8-bit print (i.e., compressing the DR by lifting shadows). And, again, I think pretty much most-if-not-all FF sensors these days when shot at base ISO will have excellent exposure latitude as long as the shots were reasonably (but not necessarily perfectly) exposed. So I don't consider it a buying consideration. Of course, if somebody is using the camera scientifically and directly extracting data from the raw file that's different. But even for landscape, I just don't think it matters anymore, which is why Nikon, Panasonic, etc. are giving up some DR to get speed.

One thing that I do find interesting, however, is his "Photographic Dynamic Range Shadow Improvement Chart." Which helps you understand what happens when you shoot at elevated ISOs and then lift shadows. The S1RII sensor does very well here - perhaps best among it's peers. And indeed, if I download an ISO 3200 Sony A7RV image from DPR's image comparison tool, and compare it to the equivalent S1RII image by lifting shadows, I do see noticeably more noise in the Sony image. Which means the S1RII sensor should be better for wildlife & sports (at least from a noise perspective) since those are often shot well above base ISO. Same for raw video, etc. So this may be a very savvy choice that Panasonic made, assuming people can get away from screaming "It's got better PDR at base ISO!!!!" for a minute and actually look at images in the raw processor of their choice.
 
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