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Amazing deals on the S5ii / S5iix with MPB (UK)

pdk42 said:
There are £1000 off deals with the S5ii and S5iix at MPB:


@Oíche - there are apparently S5ii + 24-105 deals available:

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Might be worth you seeing if they are actually in stock!!
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Thanks, yes some really great deals there, I've no idea if they have them in stock. I'm actually beginning to doubt ever getting it more than one month on. Nobody else has the S5ii & 24-105 in stock as a 'kit'. I suppose I'm paying £300 for the "free" 85mm f1.8 but it wouldn't be the prime I'd choose right now, but as I've never tried a fast 85mm maybe I'll love it? It's all unicorn stuff right now regardless :(
 
These are very good deals. I would recommend also to look for bargains for the older S5 Mk1. Although tze newer Mk2 is in a few aspects better, I find the S5Mk1 still to be an excellent camera for 2024.

Especially if you need a very cheap entry into L-Mount system.
 
dirk said:
These are very good deals. I would recommend also to look for bargains for the older S5 Mk1. Although tze newer Mk2 is in a few aspects better, I find the S5Mk1 still to be an excellent camera for 2024.

Especially if you need a very cheap entry into L-Mount system.
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The deals with the S5ii make the body ridiculously cheap. s5ii, 24-105 f4 & 70-300 f4.5-6.3 for £2598. The lenses bought separately are £1998!

In the UK however I am waiting over a month for S5ii, 24-105 f4 and 85mm f2.8 I ordered for £2199.

In both cases the S5ii works out around £500-£600 new.

The S5ii new PDAF, LUT loader, large buffer and 30fps are a game changer for me as well as my move to FF. Also the likely further firmware updates.
 
Yes I agree Dirk in a used older model is a cheap way of getting in with very affordable hardly used primes etc. at a great price but today I visited the shop and swapped the 85 f1.8 for the 70-300 f4.5-5.6 OIS for an extra £400. I'm no portrait photographer and I had no need for the 85, besides they will probably appear for around £200 soon, along with the 50 f1.8s and 20-60s readily available in unused condition.

Either way new or a used older model is fantastic. For me the S5ii, 24-105 f4 and 70-300 f4.5-5.6 is what I need (for now) for £2598. I traded in a Pentax K-70 and 4x Pentax lenses against it for £1100 and got higher than current Ebay prices (I checked thoroughly), also no hassle or comeback with disgruntled buyers which can be a nightmare.

Also got 12 months 0% on the balance so all in all... Bizarrely depending on the combo you want new gear is cheaper than used gear due to the Panasonic discounts from the same shop, and there are no 0% interest deals on used gear!
 
Oíche said:
Yes I agree Dirk in a used older model is a cheap way of getting in with very affordable hardly used primes etc. at a great price but today I visited the shop and swapped the 85 f1.8 for the 70-300 f4.5-5.6 OIS for an extra £400. I'm no portrait photographer and I had no need for the 85, besides they will probably appear for around £200 soon, along with the 50 f1.8s and 20-60s readily available in unused condition.

Either way new or a used older model is fantastic. For me the S5ii, 24-105 f4 and 70-300 f4.5-5.6 is what I need (for now) for £2598. I traded in a Pentax K-70 and 4x Pentax lenses against it for £1100 and got higher than current Ebay prices (I checked thoroughly), also no hassle or comeback with disgruntled buyers which can be a nightmare.

Also got 12 months 0% on the balance so all in all... Bizarrely depending on the combo you want new gear is cheaper than used gear due to the Panasonic discounts from the same shop, and there are no 0% interest deals on used gear!
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Yeah, unless you're a dedicated portrait photographer, the 85mm isn't really all that useful. The 70-300 will, I'm pretty sure, open up more possibilities. It's not a bad lens really, but I confess that I don't use mine a lot. These are about the best I've got with it - guess it shows that I'm really not a long lens type!

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  • Panasonic - DC-S1R
  • LUMIX S 70-300/F4.5-5.6
  • 175.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/25 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • -0.3
  • ISO 100

Caught in the Sunlight by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

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  • Panasonic - DC-S5
  • LUMIX S 70-300/F4.5-5.6
  • 300.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/250 sec
  • Pattern
  • Manual exposure
  • ISO 100

Hawker Hurricane by Paul Kaye, on Flickr
 
Not a bad lens?:cool: It looks quite impressive, that's the beauty of OLED TVs and 4k YT reviews, even the ahem... portraits look great from it. I'm not into completely dissolved backgrounds anyhow as I like to discren what is in the background, where it is etc.

I'm a bokeh fanatic and I think some people get the wrong idea in thinking bokeh means the utter most indiscernible blown out backgrounds, I actually don't like the 'bokeh' rendering in, for example, modern cycling road racing where the super AF Canons with fastest lenses are completely seperating the winner crossing the line from the crowd disolved into an opaque creamy soup bokeh... Anyway I really like the bokeh in this 70-300 and the 11 aperture blades gives really nice 22 point sunstars which at this stage 'had me' :D
I had planned and still may do get the Sigma 150-600 but this only weighing 780g makes more sense for most hikes along with the S5ii and 24-105 only weighs about 2.3kg in total.

One of the lenses I traded in for the Lumix package was the Pentax DA* 60-250 f4, this had fabulous IQ, I even took beautiful portraits with it and used up to 250mm on APSC for landscapes. I considered keeping it and trying to manual focus it but it wasn't designed for it. Regardless on Pentax AF it was jurassically slow and unfortunately no good for action and sports (usually cycle racing) so it was chocolate teapot mentality to try and use it adapted when this Lumix 70-300 existed with linear AF motors, S5ii PDAF and OIS.

I was also going to try and use this Pentax F*300 f4.5 manual focussed, it has stellar IQ no doubt better than the Lumix 70-300 @300mm, this was never designed for MF either but I'll see how much use it'll get. BTW this weighs almost 1kg, heavier than the Lumix 70-300 but carrying this 25km never bothered me whatsoever, I don't really understand those complaining of weight of lenses as I never thought it was heavy using it on camera either.IMG_20240216_034953.jpg
  • Xiaomi - M2012K11AG
  • 4.7 mm
  • ƒ/1.79
  • 1/33 sec
  • Center-Weighted Average
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 1808


All in all I'm glad the 85mm deal was delayed as I'm delighted I changed it.
 
Oíche said:
I'm not into completely dissolved backgrounds anyhow as I like to discren what is in the background, where it is etc.

I'm a bokeh fanatic and I think some people get the wrong idea in thinking bokeh means the utter most indiscernible blown out backgrounds, I actually don't like the 'bokeh' rendering in, for example, modern cycling road racing where the super AF Canons with fastest lenses are completely seperating the winner crossing the line from the crowd disolved into an opaque creamy soup bokeh...
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Completely dissolved backgrounds are known as 'Toneh'. Z04 Flucht
 
Pete_W said:
Completely dissolved backgrounds are known as 'Toneh'. Z04 Flucht
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I should have gave him a chance, watch his "Tony Northrup's Bokeh Addiction Intervention" video :D

He's right, it is ludicrous. I watch a review of the Nikkor 'Plena' 135mm f1.8... same madness, they did portraits where the background is so blurred out it looks false and you may as well just use an iPhone with the artificial background instead. The reviewer said you need to be 8-10m away and it was difficult if more than one person was in the photo as they'd be OOF unless exactly in the same plane... Therefore it was necessary to stop the lens down. LoL :p
 
pdk42 said:
Yeah, unless you're a dedicated portrait photographer, the 85mm isn't really all that useful. The 70-300 will, I'm pretty sure, open up more possibilities. It's not a bad lens really, but I confess that I don't use mine a lot. These are about the best I've got with it - guess it shows that I'm really not a long lens type!

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Caught in the Sunlight by Paul Kaye, on Flickr

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Hawker Hurricane by Paul Kaye, on Flickr
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Lovely landscape and Spitfire Mk2 :)
 
pdk42 said:
Yeah, unless you're a dedicated portrait photographer, the 85mm isn't really all that useful. The 70-300 will, I'm pretty sure, open up more possibilities. It's not a bad lens really, but I confess that I don't use mine a lot. These are about the best I've got with it - guess it shows that I'm really not a long lens type!
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I got my 70-300 just over two years ago, and for the first year didn't use it much because I'm far more used to wide angle zooms and primes. So I decided to force myself into using it: I took it out to a couple of places I've photographed regularly with my usual choice of lenses so I had to look for different perspectives. It worked out quite well, and I came back with some decent photos that were quite unlike anything I'd taken in those locations before.

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It's also a pretty darned good pseudo-macro with 0.5x magnification at 300mm.
 
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AlanC said:
I got my 70-300 just over two years ago, and for the first year didn't use it much because I'm far more used to wide angle zooms and primes. So I decided to force myself into using it: I took it out to a couple of places I've photographed regularly with my usual choice of lenses so I had to look for different perspectives. It worked out quite well, and I came back with some decent photos that were quite unlike anything I'd taken in those locations before.

View attachment 2803Whitby by AlanC, on Flickr

It's also a pretty darned good pseudo-macro with 0.5x magnification at 300mm.
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That’s a lovely shot. I’ll be up in the Whitby area in late March. Must take the 70-300 with me.
 
Oíche said:
Thanks Pete, I can't watch him but I must be anti-toneh then. :p
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He takes a bit of getting used to and his humour has grown on me. It's mostly p!ss-taking but there's often a lot of truth in what he says.
 
Pete_W said:
He takes a bit of getting used to and his humour has grown on me. It's mostly p!ss-taking but there's often a lot of truth in what he says.
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It's healthy and refreshing, I was glad to hear someone else thinking the same way about Toneh and fast lens madess. You obviously heard this before.

Tony Northrupp must hate him :p LoL
 
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