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Wide angle advice

I'm a huge Lumix fan myself. Because Panasonic makes well designed & engineered products, which in my experience go the distance. I've got Stereo's, CD players, Cassette player, TV's, VCR's, a Breadmaker, Microwave, Shaver's, and a Fridge/freezer that have all given excellent service. And their camera's/lenses have been no different. They're not the cheapest, nor most expensive, but everything I've owned that's been made by them, has given excellent return on investment. Nothing to complain about here.
I am a very huge fan of the Lumix products... I had a TV from Panasonic but I burned myself with that. It broke to quickly just after warranty. In the Netherlands that doesn't mean that you cannot get part of the money back from the seller, because by law a TV should work longer than 2 years, but the seller went bankrupt so I was out of luck.

My next TV i might buy is a LG 42" Oled TV... But I will use that for colorgrading, will sit next to my computer...
 
Paul posted comparison shots here in the forum between 16-35 and Sigma 16-28. As far as remember he found both equal in image quality.
As far as I remember that was the 14-28 vs 16-28. Had the stuff in my car today to go out 16-35 shopping after work.. but when arriving at my car it went home with me.. I'm not ready yet :)
 
Let's make this a bit more graphic :) why not add your finest and best and ultra wide image your are very very happy with and are willing to share :) Taken with a lens I asked in the orignal post. Let's have some persuasive image to win me over to one or the other :) I know it's not the lens what make the image! But hope to see some inspiration
 
Let's make this a bit more graphic :) why not add your finest and best and ultra wide image your are very very happy with and are willing to share :) Taken with a lens I asked in the orignal post. Let's have some persuasive image to win me over to one or the other :) I know it's not the lens what make the image! But hope to see some inspiration
I posted this image last week, I think:

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  • Panasonic - DC-S1R
  • LUMIX S 14-28/F4-5.6
  • 14.0 mm
  • ƒ/4.5
  • 1/60 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100
 
I've had the 16-35 since my early days with Lumix S cameras. It has been a workhorse lens, for both video and photo. I can't bring myself to think about the 14-28 because 35mm is so useful.
 
Hahaha, I'm starting to think that I'm a Lumix-fanboy :D

I'm having a discussion on a Spanish Nikon forum about whether the S5 iix is the best hybrid camera on the market now that the Nikon Z6iii has been introduced...

Maybe I'll start another thread about "what is the best mid-range hybrid camera on the market", I think the comparison with the Z6iii is really interesting Z04 Pc5
That's your impartially stacked opinion Z04 Smoker00
 
I've had the 16-35 since my early days with Lumix S cameras. It has been a workhorse lens, for both video and photo. I can't bring myself to think about the 14-28 because 35mm is so useful.
Please share some images because this is my feeling too. 35 makes the lens so much more useful. Images taken with 16-35 are not that often shared here.
 
After negotiations I should have received my good as new Lumix Pro 16-35/4 for around the new price of the Sigma 16-28.
Have to wait a few extra days because of postal services not delivering in time Z04 Kommmalherfreundchen

Also got a good trade-in price quote for the then obsolete 20-60 and 85. So if I decide to keep the 16-35 I can send them in.

Originally bought the 85 because of 60/5.6 was and short and slow. But after getting 24-105 I rather use that instead of changing lenses with 85 and loose the moment.

Keeping the 20-60 just as a zoomable 20 prime together with 24-105 not too much difference. Only if I want to go out light and want the zoom… but can just use my 35 or 50.

Also the 16-35 is versatile enough for a city walk, or any walk for that matter.
Better complements the 24-105 and should be a bit better then the 20-60, and certainly wider. And if I fancy video this should work extremely well, also with crop modes.

Just need to try to be patient until Monday or so, instead of arriving today :rolleyes:
 
My next TV i might buy is a LG 42" Oled TV... But I will use that for colorgrading, will sit next to my computer...
John, why is people using a TV instead a monitor for colorgrading? I have seen that many people (a lot of "gamers") use the LG OLED 42 C2/C3 EVO Smart TV...
 
John, why is people using a TV instead a monitor for colorgrading? I have seen that many people (a lot of "gamers") use the LG OLED 42 C2/C3 EVO Smart TV...
The LG monitors have a very good color reproduction and can be configurated 'near perfect', for a lot less than for true reference monitor. Even professional studios use the LG Oled tv's for this purpose.

At least in REC709 near perfect, in HDR good effort...
 
The LG monitors have a very good color reproduction and can be configurated 'near perfect', for a lot less than for true reference monitor. Even professional studios use the LG Oled tv's for this purpose.

At least in REC709 near perfect, in HDR good effort...
Ok, thanks for the info. As far as I know LG has high quality monitors too, this is the reason I find the use of a TV interesting. I had understood that using a TV with high refresh rate (144Hz) as a computer monitor could cause less eye strain, but perhaps it has to do with the distance at which you are located too.

I have two LG cheap monitors and I think it is going to be time soon to upgrade... Another thing for my long list of upgrade gear stuff :rolleyes:
 
Ok, thanks for the info. As far as I know LG has high quality monitors too, this is the reason I find the use of a TV interesting. I had understood that using a TV with high refresh rate (144Hz) as a computer monitor could cause less eye strain, but perhaps it has to do with the distance at which you are located too.

I have two LG cheap monitors and I think it is going to be time soon to upgrade... Another thing for my long list of upgrade gear stuff :rolleyes:
Right now I use the LG 27UP650-W - 4K IPS Monitor - 27 inch as grade monitor. During a zoom BMD Davinci training session I found out that the trainer was also using this monitor and it was cheap. For now it is definitely good enough, especially in P3 colorspace. In the future this wil become my timeline monitor. Right now I use an very old HP for that, and a Iliama as a third monitor for the clips, viewer etc. The third monitor I have fitted vertically.
 
Just fyi, Rossman on yt are having major beef with LG smart tvs and theris choice to spy on you by defult. If privacy is important to you, please reserch if this apply in your part of the world/chosen screen.
 
Just fyi, Rossman on yt are having major beef with LG smart tvs and theris choice to spy on you by defult. If privacy is important to you, please reserch if this apply in your part of the world/chosen screen.
For me it would not be a problem, because a monitor doesn't need to be online for me, and I would use the OLED-tv as a monitor.
 
Just fyi, Rossman on yt are having major beef with LG smart tvs and theris choice to spy on you by defult. If privacy is important to you, please reserch if this apply in your part of the world/chosen screen.
That is a very interesting topic... I was told something similar about Samsung smart TVs. But, we should define the idea of "spying", because ALL the tech brands collect data, IMHO. Starting with apps, following with cookies if web pages and of course the GAFAM companies.
 
That is a very interesting topic... I was told something similar about Samsung smart TVs. But, we should define the idea of "spying", because ALL the tech brands collect data, IMHO. Starting with apps, following with cookies if web pages and of course the GAFAM companies.
Yeah, but I feel like those where we have to opt out instead of opt in are the worst. Most still give the opportunity to decline at start, not that you have to menu-dive to opt out.
 
John, why is people using a TV instead a monitor for colorgrading? I have seen that many people (a lot of "gamers") use the LG OLED 42 C2/C3 EVO Smart TV...
I do HDR videos, with the purpose of showing these videos on HDR TVs. HDR computer monitors for editing have been VERY expensive, so for quite a while I used a LG OLED 42 TV as my editing monitor. This required a Blackmagic Design computer to TV interface, and this combination with the LG TV worked well.

More recently I've gone to the Apple Pro Display XDR for editing; this is a really good HDR monitor. And there are now several other lower cost HDR displays available, so there is less need to use a HDR TV for the editing monitor.

Video gamers like to work in HDR, for more realism, and often use HDR TVs for the display. And LG OLED TVs are popular because of their excellent dynamic range.
 
John, why is people using a TV instead a monitor for colorgrading? I have seen that many people (a lot of "gamers") use the LG OLED 42 C2/C3 EVO Smart TV...
The LG OLED A1 48" 4K Smart HDR TV - OLED48A16LA model I have is no way suitable for editing of any sort, it looks poor compared to this AMOLED DCI-P3 68B colours Poco F6 phone screen that I now do all editing on.

I have a VP2468 - 24" ColorPro 1080p calibrated photography monitor with 14bit LUT selections etc. too and has been in storage but again it is in a different league.

Yeah even this OLED screen is pretty poor for showing photos unless I'm doing something wrong, don't get me wrong it is excellent as an OLED TV with real blacks etc. but not colour reproduction. Picture mores are Cinema, Film maker, Vivid, Standard, Sports etc. then the energy saving garbage which looks terrible.
 
I do HDR videos, with the purpose of showing these videos on HDR TVs. HDR computer monitors for editing have been VERY expensive, so for quite a while I used a LG OLED 42 TV as my editing monitor. This required a Blackmagic Design computer to TV interface, and this combination with the LG TV worked well.

More recently I've gone to the Apple Pro Display XDR for editing; this is a really good HDR monitor. And there are now several other lower cost HDR displays available, so there is less need to use a HDR TV for the editing monitor.

Video gamers like to work in HDR, for more realism, and often use HDR TVs for the display. And LG OLED TVs are popular because of their excellent dynamic range.
Thank you, Charles, for the explanation. I see that videography is way more expensive than photography... but it is worth it Z04 Nic 0075
 
Bad weather... the view from my "home office" through a dirty window :) 16-20-24mm
PANA1269.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 16-35/F4
  • 16.0 mm
  • ƒ/4
  • 1/125 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100
PANA1270.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 16-35/F4
  • 20.0 mm
  • ƒ/4
  • 1/125 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100
PANA1271.jpg
  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 16-35/F4
  • 24.0 mm
  • ƒ/4
  • 1/125 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100
 
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