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Sigma 200mm f/2

There is a Petapixel review up now. I am about to watch it.

 
Has anyone information if it's compatible with tele converters? I found different information. The peta pixel guys said it does work with TC, other said it doesn't.
 
I'm not gonna watch it because I will never buy a 3500 lens, unless attached to a Leica body forever Z04 Flucht
 
Quentinquirelino said:
Has anyone information if it's compatible with tele converters? I found different information. The peta pixel guys said it does work with TC, other said it doesn't.
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I suspect the confusion arises from the fact that Sony prevents third party lenses from using TCs. No such limitation on L-mount, so the TCs should work. But, it would be nice to get official confirmation from Sigma - their web page on the 200/2 currently does not mention TCs at all.

I certainly hope it supports the TCs - a 400mm F4 lens would be awesome.

As a side note, I noticed this on their website:

Every single lens undergoes Sigma’s proprietary MTF measuring system.

Pretty awesome QC! And yes it looks outstanding. Sigma has been knocking it out of the park with regard to telephotos. I just wish they would create a 150-600 MK II with the fast AF motors.
 
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GeorgeHudetz said:
I just wish they would create a 150-600 MK II with the fast AF motors.
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I was thinking... what would be better or the best option in terms of image quality and size/wight, a Lumix G9ii with the OM System 150-600mm f/5-6.3 IS or the Lumix S1ii with the Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG DN Sport + TC 2×?

Based on a number of reviews and industry commentary, the OM System M.Zuiko Digital ED 150-600mm F5.0-6.3 IS lens is widely considered to be a rebadged version of the Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS Sports lens.
Because of the Identical Optical Design, Physical Similarities, Shared Features and Industry Consensus.

I guess the FF combo is more expensive, though...
 
You can crop a full frame to a m43 format, but you can't uncrop the m43 to full frame. 150-600 is 150-600, with m43 you don't gain more optical reach. So you only need a high mp full frame sensor to be able to crop. No TC required.
 
xaviergut said:
I was thinking... what would be better or the best option in terms of image quality and size/wight, a Lumix G9ii with the OM System 150-600mm f/5-6.3 IS or the Lumix S1ii with the Sigma 150-600mm f/5-6.3 DG DN Sport + TC 2×?
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It's an interesting question. I suspect they would have fairly similar IQ if you are shooting focal lengths that need the TC on the S1II. Of course, when you don't need the TC, the FF body would have a big advantage from a noise perspective.

Another issue is AF. I suspect the G9ii would have better AF than the S1II with the TC mounted.

I recall a video I once watched by a highly seasoned wildlife shooter. He bought both a Sony a1 & Sony glass and an OM/Oly system, using the Zukio 150-400. Used them both for several months before he decided which to sell. IIRC he stuck with the Sony. It was an interesting video.

But, everyone has different priorities. I think it comes down to what kind of system flexibility you need. I also like to shoot astro so I need the big sensor coupled with F1.4 primes. Just not going to get that kind of performance out of an m43 system. On the other hand, if I highly valued compactness and weight, then I'd probably have chosen m43 system. Sure, it's still heavy when I hang that big zoom off the G9ii, but there are so many small & compact lenses I know I can always transform it into something very compact.

xaviergut said:
Based on a number of reviews and industry commentary, the OM System M.Zuiko Digital ED 150-600mm F5.0-6.3 IS lens is widely considered to be a rebadged version of the Sigma 150-600mm F5-6.3 DG DN OS Sports lens.
Because of the Identical Optical Design, Physical Similarities, Shared Features and Industry Consensus.
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Yes, I believe that is correct.
xaviergut said:
I guess the FF combo is more expensive, though...
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Nico Carver at Nebula Photos just released an astrophotographer's-perspective review of this lens today. It may not be totally relevant to most peoples' photography, unless like me you prefer to spend time pointing cameras at the night sky, but it may provide y'all with some interesting points to ponder... He shot it on a Sigma FP-L which didn't get much of a mention at all in this review, so I expect we'll eventually see a "Part II" video addressing the camera.

 
Wow - looks amazing. I have no need for a lens like this, but I’m sure many will.
 
I watched the Petapixel review yesterday and the lens looks fantastic. Not for me of course but if I was shooting sports it'd be amazing.
 
I agree it looks an amazing lens, needs to be combined with a good autofocus system. Not sure it looks more enticing than the Sony 300 2.8 GM that takes TC's and is half a kilo less weight, 200mm can be too short for many sports, and I'm unclear from the specs and reviews whether it will take TC's.
 
In Jared Polin's review he said that the fps in Sony cameras is a bit limited...

I have just seen two reviews with a L-mount camera, this onecfrom Damian Briwn with the S5 OG:



The autofocus test can be a bit tricky with this camera...

But the really appealing video from Sigma for me is this one with the BF, where Jeff Hargrove uses the combo to take portraits of another artist:

 
xaviergut said:
In Jared Polin's review he said that the fps in Sony cameras is a bit limited...
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Sony artificially limit the maximum FPS on their cameras when using a non-Sony lens but I'm pretty sure it can still do 15FPS. If anyone needs more than 15FPS for photo then I have no idea what it is they're photographing that demands such a high rate. Not too long ago the very best sports DSLRs could only manage 10FPS and it was plenty.
 
Jonathan-Mac said:
Sony artificially limit the maximum FPS on their cameras when using a non-Sony lens but I'm pretty sure it can still do 15FPS. If anyone needs more than 15FPS for photo then I have no idea what it is they're photographing that demands such a high rate. Not too long ago the very best sports DSLRs could only manage 10FPS and it was plenty.
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Yes.. 15fps limit on Sony bodies and then only the A9's and A1's, and I agree, plenty for anything.

xaviergut said:
In Jared Polin's review he said that the fps in Sony cameras is a bit limited...

I have just seen two reviews with a L-mount camera, this onecfrom Damian Briwn with the S5 OG:



The autofocus test can be a bit tricky with this camera...

But the really appealing video from Sigma for me is this one with the BF, where Jeff Hargrove uses the combo to take portraits of another artist:

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Wow, not sure a 2kgs lens on the front of the BF sounds like a good plan, be great to test one though, off to watch the video, thanks for the links.
 
Quentinquirelino said:
But I don't think anyone would buy this lens for doing landscape.
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Yes, of course, landscape ot is just another possibility.

Quentinquirelino said:
I think it could be excellent for photos of domesticated animals, especially horses or dogs. But without TC, many use cases are lost.
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I asked Gemini and said that the Sigma 200mm f/2 is compatible with the 2x Sigma TC 2011 teleconverter.

That means, we would get a 400mm f/4, and if you use the 44mpx Lumix S1RII and apply an x1.5 apsc crop you get a 600mm (f/4) focal lenght with a 19.6 mpx of the original image data.

That opens the options for nature photography and videography.
 
Jayneboo said:
I agree it looks an amazing lens, needs to be combined with a good autofocus system. Not sure it looks more enticing than the Sony 300 2.8 GM that takes TC's and is half a kilo less weight, 200mm can be too short for many sports, and I'm unclear from the specs and reviews whether it will take TC's.
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Yes, the industry is in a bit of an odd state right now with regard to these amazing and (relatively) affordable Sigma lenses. If you mount them on the system with the best AF (Sony) then you loose high frame rates & TCs. You get that with L-mount, but Panasonic hasn't yet given us an AF system that can holds it's own against Nikon & Sony. It's MUCH better than it used to be, but if you need lenses like these, you want the best AF. You could mount these on a Nikon, but only with an adapter.

If Panasonic could deliver a truly competitive AF system, it would really be a game changer for high-end sports & wildlife, given how much cheaper the SIgma lenses are relative to the Sony & Nikon glass. I hold out hope there will be a major revision to the AF system on the S1* bodies, but it's just a hope.

Or, perhaps SIgma will deliver such a camera, as their CEO has said he would like them too.
 
xaviergut said:
Yes, of course, landscape ot is just another possibility.


I asked Gemini and said that the Sigma 200mm f/2 is compatible with the 2x Sigma TC 2011 teleconverter.

That means, we would get a 400mm f/4, and if you use the 44mpx Lumix S1RII and apply an x1.5 apsc crop you get a 600mm (f/4) focal lenght with a 19.6 mpx of the original image data.

That opens the options for nature photography and videography.
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I think Gemini may be wrong... two sources I've seen now quote this:-

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