Reactions to Gerald's S1Rii review

[xaviergut]

Surprise, surprise.. Is an ironic comment? is he joking?

Beitrag von Gerald Undone

I want to apologize to the LUMIX community. I was wrong. There are no flaws in the S1RII. I will do better in the future and will remember that LUMIX cameras...

youtube.com

I am afraid he is making it even worse...

 

[xaviergut]

Surprise, surprise.. Is an ironic comment? is he joking?

Beitrag von Gerald Undone

I want to apologize to the LUMIX community. I was wrong. There are no flaws in the S1RII. I will do better in the future and will remember that LUMIX cameras...

youtube.com

I am afraid he is making it even worse...

Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta



He is doing a lot of publicity of Lumix cameras with this "negative marketing" hahahaha

 

[Pete_W]

Surprise, surprise.. Is an ironic comment? is he joking?

Beitrag von Gerald Undone

I want to apologize to the LUMIX community. I was wrong. There are no flaws in the S1RII. I will do better in the future and will remember that LUMIX cameras...

youtube.com

I am afraid he is making it even worse...

Not ironic, sarcastic. He's a man baby.

 

[dirk]

We do not know what happened that caused him too react like this. Maybe some Lumix Fan boys sent him very unfriendly emails or posted nasty comments under his review, just because he mentioned some minor negatives.

Sometimes people can not control their emotions if they have a different opinion and this then gets out of control, although we are all adults.

I found his review pretty good, by the way. I found it also very good that Panasonic still send him cameras after his "Event bashing", which was less bashing and more criticism about an inherent problem with such events.

No camera is perfect. Even if one day all cameras are perfect, the job of the reviewers is to find flaws. This is good for us, because we are well informed. It is more and more tough for the reviewers to find something negative and some people might be annoyed.

But this is how it works. If you can not tolerate negative points on your dream camera, do not watch/read reviews, even better, go offline and take pictures.

 

[Nevyn72]

I found his review pretty good, by the way.

I have the feeling that there are three main archetypes of camera users (and reviewers):

The Stat-Nerds: These users prioritize technical specifications and performance metrics. For video, they focus on resolution (8K), bit depth (12-bit), dynamic range, etc. They value measurable qualities above all else.

The Artists: These users care less about specifications and more about the creative possibilities of their equipment. They prioritize tools that enable their artistic vision, regardless of whether those tools have the highest specs on paper.

The Status-Seekers: These users are primarily concerned with how their equipment reflects on their image or status. Technical capabilities and artistic potential are secondary to having gear that looks impressive or carries prestige. The new generation of vloggers are often in this catagory.

Most camera users embody aspects of all three archetypes to varying degrees.

Gerald appears to be predominantly a stat-nerd, with minimal interest in the other perspectives. His approach may be influenced by having Asperger's, which can affect how he relates to different viewpoints.

Cam Mackey (https://www.youtube.com/@cammackey) exemplifies the artist archetype. While he does consider technical specifications, he only cares about those that directly impact his creative work. This explains his enthusiasm for the S1Rii camera—he values its color science and built-in video production tools that enhance his artistic capabilities.

For myself: i'm in evolution from identifying primarily as a stat-nerd to increasingly valuing the artistic perspective—recognizing that the end result matters more than the specifications.

 

[dirk]

FYI I moved the posting into their own thread to make the S1Rii thread easier to read.

 

[dirk]

But sometimes your 3 categories overlap.

For me, I am for example a nerd when it comes to my "obsession" to have small and light gear and not too many MP,. At the same time I am only interested in lenses, which help me to enlarge my shooting envelop and to improve my kind of photography, which would be the artistic side.

I like simplicity. The less lenses I take with me, the more I enjoy it and the more creative I am. 1-2 lenses are enough to take with me. The trend for me goes rather to 1 lens only.

 

[Nevyn72]

But sometimes your 3 categories overlap.

For me, I am for example a nerd when it comes to my "obsession" to have small and light gear and not too many MP,. At the same time I am only interested in lenses, which help me to enlarge my shooting envelop and to improve my kind of photography, which would be the artistic side.

I like simplicity. The less lenses I take with me, the more I enjoy it and the more creative I am. 1-2 lenses are enough to take with me. The trend for me goes rather to 1 lens only.

I think it's important to recognize that for most people, these camera user archetypes aren't mutually exclusive but overlap significantly, which is actually a healthy approach. Even someone like Gerald, who primarily identifies as a stat-nerd focused on technical specifications, likely has elements of the artist and status-seeker within him—though the technical, specification-driven perspective clearly dominates his approach to cameras and reviews.

 

[Pete_W]

I have the feeling that there are three main archetypes of camera users (and reviewers):

The Stat-Nerds: These users prioritize technical specifications and performance metrics. For video, they focus on resolution (8K), bit depth (12-bit), dynamic range, etc. They value measurable qualities above all else.

The Artists: These users care less about specifications and more about the creative possibilities of their equipment. They prioritize tools that enable their artistic vision, regardless of whether those tools have the highest specs on paper.

The Status-Seekers: These users are primarily concerned with how their equipment reflects on their image or status. Technical capabilities and artistic potential are secondary to having gear that looks impressive or carries prestige. The new generation of vloggers are often in this catagory.

Most camera users embody aspects of all three archetypes to varying degrees.

Gerald appears to be predominantly a stat-nerd, with minimal interest in the other perspectives. His approach may be influenced by having Asperger's, which can affect how he relates to different viewpoints.

Cam Mackey (https://www.youtube.com/@cammackey) exemplifies the artist archetype. While he does consider technical specifications, he only cares about those that directly impact his creative work. This explains his enthusiasm for the S1Rii camera—he values its color science and built-in video production tools that enhance his artistic capabilities.

I like this analysis,

For myself: i'm in evolution from identifying primarily as a stat-nerd to increasingly valuing the artistic perspective—recognizing that the end result matters more than the specifications.

I was more gear oriented in the past, but am much more now interested in the creative process and love watching YT videos about this. It doesn't matter what brand is being used.

 

[Nevyn72]

I was more gear oriented in the past, but am much more now interested in the creative process and love watching YT videos about this. It doesn't matter what brand is being used.

 

[GeorgeHudetz]

Excusatio non petita, accusatio manifesta



He is doing a lot of publicity of Lumix cameras with this "negative marketing" hahahaha

I think he has done us a service, not the opposite. He talked of reporting defects to Panasonic, and that they are receptive. He also mentioned that he thinks the sensor should be able to do better. So perhaps the final firmware will perform better, and we can thank Gerald (and I'm sure others) for having the courage to point these things out.

And yes, there is an obvious tendency in the LUMIX community to downplay any shortcomings of the camera. "That doesn't matter." I'm sure this partially born from such a long dry spell in terms of there being a modern flagship camera, but it's mildly ridiculous. "That doesn't matter to me" is of course what we all have to decide. But there should not be a suppression of critical discussion.

It's a good sign that over on the other forum, new people are starting to ask questions about the camera. The S1RII has clearly piqued the interest of people who would not have considered LUMIX before. But we have to be honest about the strengths and weaknesses of the camera. After all, they will be.