RuleOfThirds
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I first reacted to your post and then saw you already ranted about the banana. Oh well 
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Modern Art - is it all crap?
- Thread starter pdk42
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Well, maybe we could try to share some interesting "art photography", some photographer that could inspire and whose work we don't consider as crap.
I already mentioned Gregory Crewdson in another thread.
Today I will like to introduce an spanish photographer, Chema Madoz. He does "surrealistic" photos, always in B/W and with a medium format Hasselblad:
www.foothillfalconphoto.com
www.artsy.net
I already mentioned Gregory Crewdson in another thread.
Today I will like to introduce an spanish photographer, Chema Madoz. He does "surrealistic" photos, always in B/W and with a medium format Hasselblad:
Chema Madoz — Foothill Photography
Chema Madoz: Endless Imagination It takes a clever mind and great skills to deceive people’s eye. Chema Madoz uses photography to create optical illusions. Whatever that is shown, is unlike the reality of objects. At times, one thinks, “that’s not possible!” Madoz’s photographic subjects are perfe
www.foothillfalconphoto.com
Chema Madoz - Biography, Shows, Articles & More | Artsy
Explore Chema Madoz’s biography, achievements, artworks, auction results, and shows on Artsy. The Spanish photographer Chema Madoz is acclaimed for his surrealistic
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... we will always have Bob Ross... the most kitsch painter in the history of humanity hahahaha
By the way, there is an interesting documentary about the unknown whereabouts of his paintings:
And here an interview with the New York Times filmmaker who made it:
By the way, there is an interesting documentary about the unknown whereabouts of his paintings:
And here an interview with the New York Times filmmaker who made it:
Travis Butler
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... we will always have Bob Ross... the most kitsch painter in the history of humanity hahahaha
By the way, there is an interesting documentary about the unknown whereabouts of his paintings:
And here an interview with the New York Times filmmaker who made it:
Back in the 90s, there was a hair dye commercial that used a Bob Ross snippet... "A little bit of color". It often played during the original Babylon 5 broadcasts (why a hair dye would appeal to science fiction TV viewers, I have no idea), so multiple copies ended up on my tapes.
There you go, that happened yesterday in Miami:
www.nbcnews.com
Duct-taped banana sells for more than $6 million at auction
Duct-taped banana sells for more than $6 million at auction
The banana has been hotly debated and made international headlines since its debut at Art Basel Miami Beach in December 2019.
www.nbcnews.com
The Rigger
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A fool and his money are soon customers...There you go, that happened yesterday in Miami:
Duct-taped banana sells for more than $6 million at auction
Duct-taped banana sells for more than $6 million at auction
The banana has been hotly debated and made international headlines since its debut at Art Basel Miami Beach in December 2019.
(Also, have you ever wondered why whenever there's some report of something extra-goofy in the news, the story usually begins with the presenter saying something like, "today a Florida man...")
pdk42
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Wow. You must need a lot of dollars to think using six million of it to buy a banana and a piece of duct tape is a good idea.
But as a side point - the cookie policy on the linked site (NBC), and the legalese around it, must be the most absurd I’ve ever seen.
robin0112358
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I don't know because I haven't seen the works. Flat images do not convey the feeling of living pieces of art. But for me the first image is boring and tells me nothing. The second could be quite compelling. I know that I've seen lots of abstract works that were highly emotive. Certainly it would occupy me for a lot longer than some clichéd landscape.
If it's not for you, fine. But this reactionary "modern art is crap" line is horrible. I don't like opera in the slightest, but I don't declare it as "crap".
I have had great fun in a room of Duchamp pieces. Gerhard Richter's abstracts blow my mind. The Yoko Ono exhibit at the Tate was masterful. And a thousand more examples. If you can't extend your sensibilities to meet an artist on their own turf, but can only relate to dead works from centuries past, then I'd say you are missing something in your life.
robin0112358
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Addendum: If all contemporary art is crap because of a taped banana, then all photography is crap because of Snapchat. The logic is bad and the attitude beyond sad.
Pete_W
LMF-Patron
Really? Here a Yoko Ono"s performance at MoMA:
She is a misunderstood artist...
I will confess to never being a fan of Yoko's "singing". I remember buying the Double Fantasy album in 1980 as soon as it was released and being somewhat shocked at her tracks on the album.
pdk42
Moderator
Yep. Every single track on that album by John Lennon is just sublime. Every track by Yoko is, well, to use the word from the thread title, crap!
pdk42
Moderator
Was there really any need to poke personal insults at me?
pdk42
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The photo might be flat, but you really don’t need more to “understand” it. It’s just a square block of wood with a red square painted on it and then cut into four pieces. What’s “compelling” about that?
I think the square of wood, and most of the other banal excuses that modern artists use for their “work” are more cliché than works from the likes of Dahl.
I know this is an extreme example, but I watched a documentary a while back about Goldsmiths in London when my daughter was thinking of doing a degree there. The documentary followed several masters’ students doing a portfolio there. One guy’s “work” was various pre-made glass jars he bought/found and into which he put fairy lights. He then arranged the jars in various “poses”, giving each a name. Another was a woman whose “art” was to steal small jewellery pieces from stores by swallowing them in situ, then shit them out later at home. She then would recover them from the stools and mount them on pedestals. Of course, they both had complex “motivations” for these utterly pointless exercises, one of which of course was also illegal.
I’m amazed that institutions like Goldsmiths put up with this sort of nonesense. Sure, I get that artists need to push boundaries, but surely someone needs to play the grown up and say “stop” to clearly stupid endeavours like these?
Now I know that cherry-picked examples like these don’t necessarily apply to all modern art. But based on most of what I see in galleries (and I go to a few), nearly all modern art leaves me cold. But maybe I’m “missing something in my life”?
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pdk42
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Are you saying that me, and others who have contributed to the thread, have "beyond sad" attitudes?
I'm all for healthy debate on this topic, but these last posts of yours seem to be loaded with offensive remarks. Maybe I'm reading it the wrong way - if so, perhaps you could re-assure me that it's not how you meant it?
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I watched that too. I took it as a comedy. All of it is like a huge joke, a bad one, by the way
pdk42
Moderator
Talking of modern art in its broadest sense, have you seen the new Jaguar marketing video:
It's really a bit weird. And there's not a single car to be seen in sight. But I guess they need something to keep them amused whilst they are twiddling their thumbs waiting for production lines to start again sometime next year.
It got some stick from one of the Guardian journalists:
www.theguardian.com
It's really a bit weird. And there's not a single car to be seen in sight. But I guess they need something to keep them amused whilst they are twiddling their thumbs waiting for production lines to start again sometime next year.
It got some stick from one of the Guardian journalists:
Hats off to Jaguar’s ‘inclusive’ new branding: now people of all backgrounds won’t buy its cars | Marina Hyde
In the aftermath of Trump’s victory, the ad already looks like a period piece. But aside from that – I mean, seriously? says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde
www.theguardian.com
Pete_W
LMF-Patron
So, some modern art in the news…
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Maurizio Cattelan’s duct-taped ‘banana’ artwork estimated to fetch up to US$1.5m at New York auction
The viral artwork, involving a banana stuck to a wall, is once again in the spotlight, as Sotheby’s prepares to auction it for an eye-watering sum
For $1.5m, the “successful” bidder will receive:
Tell me this isn’t just nonsense!
Crypto entrepreneur eats banana art he bought for $6.2m
Conceptual work created by Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan was sold at auction in New York last week
www.theguardian.com