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Lumix 28-200

Nevyn72 said:
I'm also very happy with this lens as a video travel lens (where I bought it for).

This week I tested it out and I'm quite happy with the results. I do realize I have to improve, some of the shots are not as good as I liked, but I have myself to blame for that.

Here the short video I made with it:
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Very nice video, Nevyn72, specially the shots of animals and the forest. I am (always) curious about the audio. Where did you get the music from?
 
xaviergut said:
Very nice video, Nevyn72, specially the shots of animals and the forest. I am (always) curious about the audio. Where did you get the music from?
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Thank you .. i got my music from Artlist.io
 
RuleOfThirds said:
I liked THIS review from Andy Westlake of the 28-200
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Me too, this was one of the reasons I dared to buy the lens online.

Now having used the lens for 1,5 week, I do better see what I like about the lens, and what not:

+ Very light and small, it's a lot easer to use than the heavier 24-105 F4 (and more fun)
+ Very versatile
+ 4K 28mm - 300mm (with APS-c crop) video
+ Good contrast
+ Good stabilization, with E stabilization and IBIS combined very good handheld footage posible, even at the long end.
+ Great for video
+ Good for photo
+ The f4 - f7.1 doesn't bother me, still need a ND-filter when filming outside
+ Sometimes very creamy bokeh
- And sometimes a busy bokeh...
- shooting handheld macro at the wide end is not that easy. Very small DOF and small movements of the camera have quite an impact.
- Also the lens is very close to the subject in Macro.

But all in all this is the lens I was hoping for, I think its going to be my most used lens (together with the 85mm and future 16-28mm).
 
@Nevyn72 - thanks for the samples. I think they look pretty good and certainly good enough for my telephoto landscape needs.

As to supply - they do seem still hard to get ... BUT ... I just found a used one at MPB in the UK and have ordered it! Like new and £100 off the regular price. If I don't like it, the MPB return policy is very good and since it's already used, I won't feel bad returning it if it comes to that.
 
Interesting that one has found it's way onto MPB this quickly.
Looking forward to your impressions Paul.
 
For just 100 GBP less I'd prefer to buy a new one and have the guarantee.
 
Jonathan-Mac said:
For just 100 GBP less I'd prefer to buy a new one and have the guarantee.
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Well, that's a fair point. But OTOH, there's not a lot to go wrong in a lens and in fact MPB do provide a warranty. I like to test my lenses carefully and I'm somewhat happier returning a used lens if I'm not 100% happy than a new one. I see too many people ordering new stuff, playing with it for a week or two and then returning it.
 
Well, dust, moisture, de-centring, simply a poor copy - there's plenty to go wrong in manufacturing a lens.
 
Well, the 28-200 arrived. It does indeed look "like new". It performs very well at the wide end, but anything beyond about 135mm is a disaster unless you stop down to f11. Here's an example at 200mm at f7.1 (wide open), f8, and f11. I didn't change the focus between shots. Camera was on a tripod with a 2s self-timer delay. All approx 100% crops.

f7.1
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  • Panasonic - DC-S1R
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 200.0 mm
  • ƒ/7.1
  • 1/160 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100



f8
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  • Panasonic - DC-S1R
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 200.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/125 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100


f11
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  • Panasonic - DC-S1R
  • LUMIX S 28-200/F4-7.1
  • 200.0 mm
  • ƒ/11
  • 1/50 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100
 
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I'm going to try the Tamron 28-200 on a Sony and see how that performs. As things stand, I'm yet to find a 200mm lens that works for me on L-mount.
 
Wow, that wide-open shot looks horrible.
 
pdk42 said:
Well, the 28-200 arrived. It does indeed look "like new". It performs very well at the wide end, but anything beyond about 135mm is a disaster unless you stop down to f11. Here's an example at 200mm at f7.1 (wide open), f8, and f11. I didn't change the focus between shots. Camera was on a tripod with a 2s self-timer delay. All approx 100% crops.

f7.1
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Oh dear, what a shame. I guess now we know why it arrived on MPB so quickly.
So it looks like sample variation is a factor to consider when deciding where to buy, I just hope this isn't representative of the lens in general because at some point I would consider getting one as a travel companion.
 
I think they've tried too hard to get the range into a small size and the compromises they've had to make to do that are really showing.
 
I think I actually have a really good sample, but will try to make somewhere this week some more photos in a more controlled setting. So pictures at 135mm, 150mm, 180mm and 200mm all at F8
 
Jonathan-Mac said:
Wow, that wide-open shot looks horrible.
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Yeah, it's really bad. And it's sort of a fuzzy "blooming" rather than just unsharp. You can even see it in the viewfinder. A legacy Tokina 70-210 for OM that cost me £25 performs better!

Tokina 70-210 at 210mm, f8
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  • Panasonic - DC-S1R
  • Tokina SD 70-210 f4-5.6
  • 210.0 mm
  • ƒ/8
  • 1/200 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • ISO 100
 
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pdk42 said:
Yeah, it's really bad. And it's sort of a fuzzy "blooming" rather than just unsharp. You can even see it in the viewfinder. The £25 Tokina 70-210 for OM that I have performs better!

Tokina 70-210 at 210mm, f8
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And that too is tiny:

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  • Panasonic - DC-S5M2
  • LUMIX S 20-60/F3.5-5.6
  • 51.0 mm
  • ƒ/5.3
  • 1/60 sec
  • Pattern
  • Auto exposure
  • 0.3
  • ISO 400
 
Jonathan-Mac said:
I think they've tried too hard to get the range into a small size and the compromises they've had to make to do that are really showing.
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Everyone raves about its size, but there are plenty of legacy 28-200 lenses that all just as small, or smaller:

Sigma 28-200 f3.5-f5.6 - 400g, 77mm long
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Tamron 28-200 f3.5-f5.6 - 430g, 81mm long
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Tamron 28-200 f3.8-f5.6 macro - 354g, 75mm long
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I could go on. All the above are AF lenses, albeit without IS.

To be honest, the modern Tamron 28-200 f2.8-f5.6 Di III RXD looks to be significantly better optically than this Lumix lens. It's a little bigger and it lacks IS, but TBH, I much much much prefer the Tamron.
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Tamron 28-200 - 575g, 117mm long
Lumix 28-200 - 413g, 77mm long
 
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