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[The Rigger]

Same Here: Netflix, Prime, HBO Max, Youtube Premium, Videoland (dutch), Disney, Spotify...

For me Youtube and Spotify is enough, but wifey wants also the rest and I cannot complain ofcourse.... With all my gear purchases ;-)

I haven't owned a television since 1986...

No, really.

What are y'all laughing at?

 

[pdk42]

I haven't owned a television since 1986...

No, really.

What are y'all laughing at?

I sort of envy you. We lived without a TV for about 8 years, but when kids arrived we succumbed once more. These days I never watch broadcast TV, but I do like good films (movies) and that’s why we have Netflix. A lot of the stuff they have is pretty awful, but there’s a lot of good stuff too.

 

[Markuswelder]

We grew up with no TV. From about age 5, until way past we left home. Best thing my parents ever did. We spent our time roaming the hills, riding bicycles everywhere, building, racing & crashing billycarts, as we got a bit older flying around the place on our dirt bikes, walking untold miles through the hills shooting rabbits, goats, possums & other pests. We had the time of our lives, & still look back on it with the greatest of fondness. They were very very special times, & I feel truly sorry for kids these days, cooped up in front of the TV, or computer/phone/iPad/whatever, having never really experienced just getting outside, and doing sh!t.

 

[CharlesH]

We grew up with no TV.

Same here. I grew up in a remote part of the state of Colorado, with no city to get in our way and no TV. I did all the stuff of which you speak, except I never shot goats. Our family did sit around in the evenings and watch radio sometimes, and we would go to a movie now and then. I am very grateful for that time, and for the deep appreciation of nature this instilled in me.

 

[PJD]

We grew up with no TV. From about age 5, until way past we left home. Best thing my parents ever did. We spent our time roaming the hills, riding bicycles everywhere, building, racing & crashing billycarts, as we got a bit older flying around the place on our dirt bikes, walking untold miles through the hills shooting rabbits, goats, possums & other pests. We had the time of our lives, & still look back on it with the greatest of fondness. They were very very special times, & I feel truly sorry for kids these days, cooped up in front of the TV, or computer/phone/iPad/whatever, having never really experienced just getting outside, and doing sh!t.

You know how they talk about there being an alternate universe? That's where I grew up.

Here's me (on the far right) and a few of my 6 siblings transfixed by the TV in my parents' NJ living room, sometime around the late 1950s or early 1960s. My fascination with video imagery began at an early age!

• OLYMPUS CORPORATION - E-M10 Mark III
• OLYMPUS M.12-40mm F2.8
• 34.0 mm
• ƒ/5.6
• 1/6 sec
• Center-Weighted Average
• Manual exposure
• ISO 200

My late Dad, being a WWII combat veteran, certainly knew how to use a gun, but post-war never kept one at our home in suburban NJ. Many years ago he temporarily kept a pistol on an upper shelf in the back room at his pharmacy "in case of emergency". As kids my siblings & I played with toy guns, and as far as I know none of us have owned or used a real gun. So, no hunting, but lots of hikes in the fields, woods & hills, and biking everywhere, and we had various animals as pets. I'm not judging anyone. Other people killed & butchered our meat, and we ate it. YMMV. After having ducks as pets when I was a kid, I still could never eat a duck! Here I am in 1967 with the best duck ever, Charlie (I'm the one in the plaid shirt).

• Canon - LiDE 300

In addition to TV, there was also a (model) train set. That's me in the center at Christmastime 1958 in the very cold, unheated basement of my parents' NJ home, watching my Dad operate what was probably a then-new Christmas present. The locomotive is visible in the 2nd photo. My older brother (wearing the hat) still has the train set, and it still works.

• Canon - LiDE 300

• Canon - LiDE 300

What has any of this got to do with computer-based photo processing? Everything & nothing perhaps. It can be a long strange journey, becoming a camera nerd.

 

[PJD]

You know how they talk about there being an alternate universe? That's where I grew up.

Here's me (on the far right) and a few of my 6 siblings transfixed by the TV in my parents' NJ living room, sometime around the late 1950s or early 1960s. My fascination with video imagery began at an early age!
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My late Dad, being a WWII combat veteran, certainly knew how to use a gun, but post-war never kept one at our home in suburban NJ. Many years ago he temporarily kept a pistol on an upper shelf in the back room at his pharmacy "in case of emergency". As kids my siblings & I played with toy guns, and as far as I know none of us have owned or used a real gun. So, no hunting, but lots of hikes in the fields, woods & hills, and biking everywhere, and we had various animals as pets. I'm not judging anyone. Other people killed & butchered our meat, and we ate it. YMMV. After having ducks as pets when I was a kid, I still could never eat a duck! Here I am in 1967 with the best duck ever, Charlie (I'm the one in the plaid shirt).
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In addition to TV, there was also a (model) train set. That's me in the center at Christmastime 1958 in the very cold, unheated basement of my parents' NJ home, watching my Dad operate what was probably a then-new Christmas present. The locomotive is visible in the 2nd photo. My older brother (wearing the hat) still has the train set, and it still works.
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What has any of this got to do with computer-based photo processing? Everything & nothing perhaps. It can be a long strange journey, becoming a camera nerd.

Correction: I have too many siblings, and my brain slipped a cog: One of my younger sisters, the one in the photo holding the big black teddy bear, grew up to be an avid hunter, and is apparently a good shot. So there's that.

 

[CharlesH]

My fascination with video imagery began at an early age!

Okay, if we are telling stories about how were photo/video influenced. My mother always carried a small 35mm camera, I forget what model. She had 35mm slides of all the friends and relatives, and the great Colorado scenery, and she was a flower person, and she would project the slides and talk about them all. I always wanted my own camera and finally saved enough. Back then because we weren't in a city, everything like that came by mail order, and I ordered a camera. When it was due I walked to the post office, quite a ways, and picked up the package. Mary was a local girl with a promiscuous reputation, and all the boys dreamed of meeting up with her. Sure enough as I was walking home from the post office, Mary pulled up in her parent's car and said "hi, would you like a ride?" I looked at the package I had been waiting for for days, and said no thanks, it's not that far. My mother was responsible for my good behavior that day, although perhaps not in the way she intended. Mary went on to become a show girl in Reno, and she eventually married Bill Harrah, the entrepreneur who was responsible for building so many casinos in Nevada. I went on to become a scientist, and then a successful entrepreneur, and an avid photo and video enthusiast. So it all worked out.

 

[xaviergut]

In the 80's my father bought this Agfa family camera with a projector included, which made three-minute Super 8 movies without sound.

Agfa Family (Super 8) - Deutsches Kameramuseum

Eigentlich geniales Film-/Fotosystem von Agfa. Leider blieb es nur eine Episode: Die Agfa-Family-Kamera Typ 5190 konnte wahlweise fotografieren (orangefarbener Auslöser) oder filmen (18 Bilder pro Sekunde = schwarzer Druckknopf). Als Filmmaterial diente ein ganz normaler Super-8-Film (kein...

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So once every three or four months we would get together to see family moments.

Kamera- und Fotomuseum Kurt Tauber: Agfa Family

Bilder & Apparate: Privates virtuelles Kameramuseum und ausdrucksstarke Fotos - Photos and Cameras: Virtual Museum for Photography and Photocameras

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This projector had a mini screen but it was also possible to project the images onto a larger screen or on a wall, like any "Beamer" today. Now I have all the movies digitized in 60 gigabytes, although the image quality is terrible, the important thing is the family moments.

That's where our love for videos began. A totally analog era.

 

[The Rigger]

My history isn't as interesting as that. My first wife was addicted to tv, to her detriment. When she died, back in '86, I got rid of the One-Eyed Monster and haven't really looked back. In my more charitable moments I think of television as Mankind's Greatest Wasted Opportunity...

My favorite analogy is one that Carl Sagan wrote of, long ago: We have been searching the heavens for intelligent extra-terrestrial life for around 60-70 years now, beaming out the SETI messages. But we've been broadcasting TV shows for far longer. And broadcast television signals are omnidirectional, meaning they don't just go OUT, they also go UP. So IF there's any sentient life out there among the stars (which I firmly believe there's a good chance of), and IF by some chance they're able to intercept and decode the weak signals emanating from this backwater planet in the corner of a minor-class galaxy, they're not going to hear "greetings! We come in peace!"; they're going to hear the Howdy Doody Show and Nixon's Checkers speech. And they'll probably zap us into oblivion with a Vogon Death Ray for our own bloody good.

When I was a wee sprout I got addicted to reading books; a monkey that's still firmly attached to my back to this day. I do enjoy a good cinema show, don't get me wrong, but a book? That-there is the Key to the Kingdom. I credit my rampant imagination to a misspent youth, trapped between the pages of countless libraries' worth of books.

(And for the record, I don't hunt but I'm a pretty fair shot on the 600-1000 yard target rifle range, and clay pigeons quake in fear when I step onto a Sporting Clays course.)

 

[Pete_W]

And broadcast television signals are omnidirectional, meaning they don't just go OUT, they also go UP. So IF there's any sentient life out there among the stars (which I firmly believe there's a good chance of), and IF by some chance they're able to intercept and decode the weak signals emanating from this backwater planet in the corner of a minor-class galaxy, they're not going to hear "greetings! We come in peace!"; they're going to hear the Howdy Doody Show and Nixon's Checkers speech. And they'll probably zap us into oblivion with a Vogon Death Ray for our own bloody good.

 

[PJD]

If you can, perhaps keep your old iMac to run the “2007” software, and get a Mac Mini to run everything else. ...

FYI: Apple has a new product event scheduled for September 9th. They’re expected to announce several new products, possibly including the new “M4” Mac Mini.

Often when new models are released, the price on previous models (new units still in stock at dealers) are reduced. M3, M2, and M1 models can be fantastic values & very capable machines, even if not the latest versions.

Again, just an FYI. YMMV. Cheers.

 

[pdk42]

FYI: Apple has a new product event scheduled for September 9th. They’re expected to announce several new products, possibly including the new “M4” Mac Mini.

Often when new models are released, the price on previous models (new units still in stock at dealers) are reduced. M3, M2, and M1 models can be fantastic values & very capable machines, even if not the latest versions.

Again, just an FYI. YMMV. Cheers.

I really don't think for most people there is a huge difference between M1 and M3. Not sure what M4 will bring.

 

[The Rigger]

I really don't think for most people there is a huge difference between M1 and M3. Not sure what M4 will bring.

An emptier bank account.

 

[The Rigger]

Well, I finally went ahead 'n' done it. Updated my ten-year-old MacBook Pro 15" Retina to Big Sur (Mac OS 11.something) and deleted Photoshop Elements in favo(u)r of the Affinity v2.0 suite of tools. Adobe finally went one bridge too far for my liking, with their newest terms of slaver... I mean, service.

This oughtta be interesting...