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I bought an S1
- Thread starter pdk42
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Hey, why not I say!
I would like to try one too but I feel sure that I would suffer too much indecision trying to decide which camera to take out with me!
xaviergut
LMF-Patron
Great purchase! I would like to know if the sensor of the Lumix S1 is the same as the sensor of the original Leica SL. On the cined.com podcast they said that the original Leica SL is becoming a cult camera among videographers and photographers because absolutely no noise reduction is applied to the images produced by that sensor. In the following models of the Leica SL (SL2 and SL3) noise reduction is applied even if that function is disabled.
The problem is that it still costs around €1,800 on the second-hand market...
Hi Paul, I love the S1R body too, the handling is much better than with my S5. Seems like someone used my hand to design the S1R body…
Just the weight is horrible for longer use and the biggest problem. The smaller S5 fits not so well in my hand.
I also thought about an additional S1 body (maybe to convert for Astro). But then I decided for a S5II as additional body and so my S5 is in the shop to be converted. For me the AF of the S1R/S5 was ok, I know where I have problems and I can deal with it. But the AF of the S5II is really way better, could not believe that the difference is so big…
I still want to convert a camera for Infrared and the S1 could be a cheap option in the future. AF is not so important for landscapes, but the weight still is! An IR body is so,ethimg to carry as add-on, you never know if you will need it or not. So a big and heavy body is not the first solution.
Just the weight is horrible for longer use and the biggest problem. The smaller S5 fits not so well in my hand.
I also thought about an additional S1 body (maybe to convert for Astro). But then I decided for a S5II as additional body and so my S5 is in the shop to be converted. For me the AF of the S1R/S5 was ok, I know where I have problems and I can deal with it. But the AF of the S5II is really way better, could not believe that the difference is so big…
I still want to convert a camera for Infrared and the S1 could be a cheap option in the future. AF is not so important for landscapes, but the weight still is! An IR body is so,ethimg to carry as add-on, you never know if you will need it or not. So a big and heavy body is not the first solution.
It is a Leica…
The cheapest price for a used S1 was 700€ in good condition. That is an amount of money where you can start to think about buying one just for testing…
pdk42
Moderator
As far as I understand it, the sensor in the S1 is the same as in the SL2s. The SL sensor is basically the same as in the original Q.
Quentinquirelino
Well-Known Member
Yes, the S1 sensor, as well as the S5, the S1H, the SL2-S and even the S5II are all custom IMX410 sony semiconductor sensors.
The OG SL sensor is probably the same as the OG Q and the M10 and it's not produced by Sony semiconductor.
Quentinquirelino
Well-Known Member
I can totally understand. While smaller body are better for carrying. Bigger Bodys tend to make more fun for actual photographing. Also the better view finder, the better display and the better display folding mechanism are huge benefits.
pdk42
Moderator
Ha, ha
If only I knew. But I have to say the wait for the S1 ii is really l o o o o o n g !
RuleOfThirds
Well-Known Member
Can you tell me more why ? 'm just curious to your motivatoin, not being judgemental or anything like htat, I know it is not for size and weight cause it's the same size and even heavier. Only conclusion I could think of is that you would like the ergonomics of the s1r, but the resolution of the s5
Anyway, congratulations !!
Anyway, congratulations !!
pdk42
Moderator
It's exactly as you say. The S1R is great, but the files don't hold up as well as those from the S5 when shooting at high ISO or if subject to a lot of heavy PP. Basically, the 24Mp sensor produces files that are cleaner and more maleable in post processing than those from the S1R. This post I did sums it up really:Can you tell me more why ? 'm just curious to your motivatoin, not being judgemental or anything like htat, I know it is not for size and weight cause it's the same size and even heavier. Only conclusion I could think of is that you would like the ergonomics of the s1r, but the resolution of the s5
Anyway, congratulations !!
LIttle ISO test EM1.3 vs S1R vs S5
I was curious to see how well these three cameras performed now that we have modern NR techniques to help with noise. So, I took shots (in raw) at increasingly high ISOs with each camera and then used LR's "Enhance" NR feature to clean each image up as best I could. The scene was a dimly-lit...
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So, my motivation is simply to have an S1-style body with the 24Mp sensor. I wouldn't have done it though if the S1 wasn't so ridiculously cheap now.
BTW, the S1 and S1R are pretty much identical in weight.
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Higher resolutions, stacked sensors, global shutters, even PDAF; they all seem to take a toll on the image quality at higher ISOs. I do wonder if we've hit the peak with the current generation of 24MP cameras, and with the pre-PDAF Panasonic S-series in particular.