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Rumors What is not yet disclosed on Panasonic's roadmap?

dirk

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Has anybody heard about something about the missing lenses on the Panasonic roadmap of September 2023?

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The two blue ones are known. It is the 100/2.8 Macro and the upcoming 28-200/4.0-7.1 travel zoom.

But there are still 2 red ones, which I do not know what they could be. One high aperture zoom between 28 to 70mm. Probably a 28-70/2.8 zoom. I wonder how they will try to differ from the Sigma 28-70/2.8 DG DN.

The second one shall be an ultra tele zoom from probably 100mm to 500mm.

It seems that both Sigma and Panasonic really try to get the foot in the door for sport and wildlife photographers, now that they have also the improved AF system. Maybe we get this year also a new camera which is better suited for this kind of photography?
 
The two blue one's where on the roadmap for a little longer. The 100mm macro and the travel Zoom where added along with the announcement of the 14-28 macro and S5II. The high aperture zoom and the super telephoto zoom where added later, in August 2023, a few months after the two others. So maybe we will here more about them this summer.

For the super telephoto zoom, some Panasonic officials said it will be very light weight. The lightest of its kind on the market. After the macro and the travel Zoom, I'm a little curious how light it actually will be and how much we have to sacrifice for it. What will be the max aperture? Will it work with teleconveter?

Maybe the 28-70 will become the size of the 28-200?
 
The two blue one's where on the roadmap for a little longer. The 100mm macro and the travel Zoom where added along with the announcement of the 14-28 macro and S5II. The high aperture zoom and the super telephoto zoom where added later, in August 2023, a few months after the two others. So maybe we will here more about them this summer.

For the super telephoto zoom, some Panasonic officials said it will be very light weight. The lightest of its kind on the market. After the macro and the travel Zoom, I'm a little curious how light it actually will be and how much we have to sacrifice for it. What will be the max aperture? Will it work with teleconveter?

Maybe the 28-70 will become the size of the 28-200?
a 28-70 2.8 that is weather sealed and the size/weight of the 28-200 :eek: That would be awesome - especially if they give it OIS.
 
I think it could be a small 24-70mm F4 similar to what Nikon offers. That might be a slightly more premium kit lens collards to the 20-60mm.
 
I think it could be a small 24-70mm F4 similar to what Nikon offers. That might be a slightly more premium kit lens collards to the 20-60mm.
My only hesitation with that is it is described as a “fast“ lens and I don’t think of F4 as fast. I’m more inclined to think it will be a 2.8, 28-70. If Panasonic can do thei same magic as with the 100/2.8, them it could quite compact. If it ends up being F2 and not an S Pro lens, that could suggest they have orphaned that series.
 
My only hesitation with that is it is described as a “fast“ lens and I don’t think of F4 as fast. I’m more inclined to think it will be a 2.8, 28-70. If Panasonic can do thei same magic as with the 100/2.8, them it could quite compact. If it ends up being F2 and not an S Pro lens, that could suggest they have orphaned that series.
Plus if you look at the charts they are organized by aperture low to high. The one in the original post seems to indicate this won't be a pro series lens because it delineates the two tiers into different row. It's got to be at most 2.8. by its position it could be an f2 but you'd expect such a premium lens to be a pro series. So the most likely thing is that it's a new kit lens for the next s1 series - a Lumix made 28-70(75? 80? If you go by how the shading on the 28-200 cuts off before 200) f/2.8

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Even if it's just a rebadged and tuned sigma - it will be a welcome addition just to have the option of the same great light standard zoom but with weather sealing.
 
If you go by how the shading on the 28-200 cuts off before 200

Maybe at the time of that roadmap, they were not sure yet what they could achieve after the prototype or depending on the market development or prive sensitivity.

Maybe they had 2 different prototypes and they want to decide only later on depending on market conditions and offers of the competition which version to produce at the end?
 
Maybe at the time of that roadmap, they were not sure yet what they could achieve after the prototype or depending on the market development or prive sensitivity.

The roadmap can't be that old. The 100mm f2.8 was released in January and it's on the roadmap. At the time, the 28-200 was production ready.

But I think we can't take those roadmaps as exact scale for the real lens coming.
 
Also it's above the 24-70 2.8 on the f-stop axis. Could be a 28-70 f2 which would be the only other company besides canon to make one right?
I'm more and more tending to think it will be a 28-70/2. Latest rumors suggest that Sony will bring a 24-70/2. Maybe Panasonic is already happy with their midrange offerings and the last additions to the roadmap already are more directed to higher end customers.

In the latest interview, in the magazine phototrend (shared here), also the 100-500 where mentioned as dedicated to ambitious amateurs and pro's.

Also the next body's will probably be the long awaited upgrades of the S1 Series and therefore more high end. With more high end bodys, more high end lenses are needed.
 
I'm more and more tending to think it will be a 28-70/2. Latest rumors suggest that Sony will bring a 24-70/2. Maybe Panasonic is already happy with their midrange offerings and the last additions to the roadmap already are more directed to higher end customers.

In the latest interview, in the magazine phototrend (shared here), also the 100-500 where mentioned as dedicated to ambitious amateurs and pro's.

Also the next body's will probably be the long awaited upgrades of the S1 Series and therefore more high end. With more high end bodys, more high end lenses are needed.
A 28-70 f2 will be enormous. And the rumour is that the new S1 bodies will be smaller. Who needs a 28-70 f2 (genuine question, it would be pointless for the sort of photography I do, but I appreciate it might suit others).
 
A 28-70 f2 will be enormous. And the rumour is that the new S1 bodies will be smaller. Who needs a 28-70 f2 (genuine question, it would be pointless for the sort of photography I do, but I appreciate it might suit others).
Canon has one that's popular for wedding shooters. You're right though. If the 24-70 is 930g the f2 would be easily 1.5kg. sounds like a lot but if you're in the wedding game you're probably already carrying a 70-200 2.8 or a 35-150 that weigh close to the same. Being said, my shoulders and neck hurt just thinking about running around with 4.5kg of bodies and lenses for 8 hours.
 
The Canon 28-70/2 is gigantic, heavy and very expensive and I'm not sure many wedding shooters would value the extra stop more than being able to go to 24mm. I don't know how it sells for Canon but they have a much bigger market than the L-mount, so it wouldn't make sense here.

An f/4 would be a more useful lens even though it would probably be about the same price as Sigma's f/2.8 but likely better weather sealed and with better AF-C.
 
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